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Re: Ian Knot

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Post by mkl »

hamandcheese wrote: post #21
mkl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is right. In ten years of use, the handful of times the plain Ian Knot has come undone on me were from stepping on and end or similar - it's never come undone without some external force, and even then it's usually fine. I just checked and I'm not doing the Granny Knot version.

I believe it’s impossible to tie a granny knot using the Ian Knot method.

It's definitely possible. It depends on which way you do the initial single knot (right over left or left over right), relative to which way you turn the Ian Knot loops (left end towards you or away). The are four possible combinations, two of which produce Granny Knots.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by mcguire »

deusum wrote: post #5
weaksauce wrote: post #3

The secure version of this is much better and the one I use all the time. Doesn't get stuck and is quick to tie and untie. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Truly, I look forward to trying it out. Knot related: Patrick Novotny[1] has a youtube channel with 100+ ways to tie your tie. A fun intersection between knot enthusiasm and attractive attire. [1] https://www.youtube.com/user/PatrickNovotnyRemax

100 ways?

There are only The 85 Ways to Tie a Tie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_85_Ways_to_Tie_a_Tie?wprov...

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by grzm »

mcguire wrote: post #32
deusum wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Truly, I look forward to trying it out. Knot related: Patrick Novotny[1] has a youtube channel with 100+ ways to tie your tie. A fun intersection between knot enthusiasm and attractive attire. [1] https://www.youtube.com/user/PatrickNovotnyRemax

100 ways? There are only The 85 Ways to Tie a Tie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_85_Ways_to_Tie_a_Tie?wprov...

One must account for the tie-tying disruption favored here, kind sir.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

mkl wrote: post #11
weinzierl wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Talking about other secure knots wouldn't be complete without mentioning the Granny Knot and what Ian says about the secure knot: > NOTE: For normal activities, the Ian Knot or other standard knots should be quite secure. I believe that many people seek more secure knots because they are, without realizing, tying their shoelaces with an un-balanced "Granny Knot". Please see my Granny Knot page that discusses this in…

I think this is right. In ten years of use, the handful of times the plain Ian Knot has come undone on me were from stepping on and end or similar - it's never come undone without some external force, and even then it's usually fine. I just checked and I'm not doing the Granny Knot version.

It depends on the string you’re using to tie it. Paracord shoelaces are more slippery than most; I had to switch to the secure version of the knot because the normal one didn’t have enough friction to stay tied all day.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by alva »

ilozinski wrote: post #13

My name is also Ian and I have invented my own shoe-tying method independently from Ian Fleggen's method. I believe it's faster than the "Ian Knot". Once I come up with a name for it, I will publish it online. Taking name suggestions...

Not Ian's Knot

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by grzm »

alva wrote: post #35
ilozinski wrote: post #13

My name is also Ian and I have invented my own shoe-tying method independently from Ian Fleggen's method. I believe it's faster than the "Ian Knot". Once I come up with a name for it, I will publish it online. Taking name suggestions...

Not Ian's Knot

NINIK?

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by arijun »

Perhaps he is the inventor of this knot in the same way I was the inventor of short division in grade school--I thought I had invented it since no one had taught it to me, but I had just rediscovered an existing technique. Since that was the way my dad learned how to tie his shoes from his father before Ian was born, I think the furthest one could say is Ian is _an_ inventor of this not, not _the_ inventor.

However, this website is really cool, and it does do a much better job of explaining than my frustrated attempts of "you just pull one loop through the other!"

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by twic »

ilozinski wrote: post #13

My name is also Ian and I have invented my own shoe-tying method independently from Ian Fleggen's method. I believe it's faster than the "Ian Knot". Once I come up with a name for it, I will publish it online. Taking name suggestions...

IIan knot.

Re: Ian Knot

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Post by jcampbell1 »

arijun wrote: post #37

Perhaps he is the inventor of this knot in the same way I was the inventor of short division in grade school--I thought I had invented it since no one had taught it to me, but I had just rediscovered an existing technique. Since that was the way my dad learned how to tie his shoes from his father before Ian was born, I think the furthest one could say is Ian is _an_ inventor of this not, not _the_ inventor. However,…

I learned this knot in 1986 from my brother, and he knew it for awhile before that, and unlikely through Ian.

I do it slightly differently, and a decent amount faster. I don't pinch and grab after the spin, but rather hook the opposite lace during the spin with the front crease in my index finger.

It takes about 10 minutes to learn, and 20 minutes of practice for the muscle memory to get it right.

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