This is specifically for "heavy drinking". In case folks are wondering how that's defined (per the study, computed based on volume of 60 g of ethanol), it's:
- 1.5 L of beer (at 5% ABV)
- 0.5 L of wine (at 14% ABV)
Alcohol use disorder largest risk factor for dementia
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Re: Alcohol use disorder largest risk factor for dementia
#32I don't like when titles obscure the actual findings. It should be Alcohol abuse largest risk factor for dementia. Its not just drinking alcohol, its drinking alcohol problematically.
Is "problematically" a well-defined term in this study?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not French and I am not close to anyone who is, so there is nothing in here of any possible relevance to me? While there are a lot of posters here eager to point out the limits to what this study formally investigates, the inclusion of the French dimension underscores my suspicion that finding a reason to regard this study as irrelevant to one's specific circumstances is not the best way of looking at it.
I didn't write the parent comment, but I don't think what they're trying to do is > finding a reason to regard this study as irrelevant to one's specific circumstances It's more about being precise about what exactly the study found. There's a real problem with legitimate studies being reported as something sensational, and then when the headline is proven to be false the public loses respect for the scientific proce…
> There's a real problem with legitimate studies being reported as something sensational, and then when the headline is proven to be false the public loses respect for the scientific process.
I'm the author of the root comment. This phenomenon is one of my greatest disappointments in the modern internet. More than drm, surveillance, and commercialization. The internet is the best avenue for public education we've seen, but instead it's used to sell high sodium processed food and $15/month entertainment subscriptions. The education (on the internet) has to be watered down to be entertainment, because the entire platform is becoming entertainment.
Re: Alcohol use disorder largest risk factor for dementia
#34This is specifically for "heavy drinking". In case folks are wondering how that's defined (per the study, computed based on volume of 60 g of ethanol), it's: - 1.5 L of beer (at 5% ABV) - 0.5 L of wine (at 14% ABV)
per day. Every day.
Re: Alcohol use disorder largest risk factor for dementia
#35The scientific article states alcohol use disorder, not alcohol use. The scientific article is about early onset dementia, not all dementia. The scientific article uses a large sample size, but the entire population is French. I would rewrite the title "Alcohol use disorder is the largest risk factor for early onset dementia in French population."
Thanks, we've added “disorder” in the title to clarify.
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#36I've been reading Why We Sleep, a really good and important book about sleep from a noted sleep research and professor of neuroscience Matthew Walker. Some of this intuitively makes sense based on his research. Alcohol interfers with sleep, specifically the ability to remember information and to form new memories by harming and reducing REM sleep. This effect lasts for stuff you learned days earlier (read a book on M…
Bavarians with their Weißbier (wheat beer) for breakfast were right all along.
Re: Alcohol use disorder largest risk factor for dementia
#37*Alcohol abuse is largest risk factor > Most reviews point to a possible beneficial effect of light-to-moderate drinking on cognitive health... By contrast, heavy drinking seems detrimentally related to dementia risk, whatever the dementia type.
> Most reviews point to a possible beneficial effect of light-to-moderate drinking on cognitive health. Citation needed
Until five years ago the consensus view was that moderate alcohol consumption lowered all-cause mortality compared to non-drinkers.
Latest meta-analyses say that after controlling for reasons behind non-drinkers (‘former alcoholics’) the effect disappears.
Good starting point is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26997174/
Re: Alcohol use disorder largest risk factor for dementia
#38I've been reading Why We Sleep, a really good and important book about sleep from a noted sleep research and professor of neuroscience Matthew Walker. Some of this intuitively makes sense based on his research. Alcohol interfers with sleep, specifically the ability to remember information and to form new memories by harming and reducing REM sleep. This effect lasts for stuff you learned days earlier (read a book on M…
Bavarians with their Weißbier (wheat beer) for breakfast were right all along.
Walker literally says the best time to drink is at breakfast (for the mind at least).
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#39Re: Alcohol use disorder largest risk factor for dementia
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Most reviews point to a possible beneficial effect of light-to-moderate drinking on cognitive health. Citation needed
Until five years ago the consensus view was that moderate alcohol consumption lowered all-cause mortality compared to non-drinkers. Latest meta-analyses say that after controlling for reasons behind non-drinkers (‘former alcoholics’) the effect disappears. Good starting point is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26997174/
And in five years the consensus might change again. Excessive use of everything is harmful. Use common sense.