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Re: ISP Spying

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post #29

Please use the original title.

The Original posters did use the title of the blogpost. @Admins, why did you change it?

I feel like the original title "Your ISP is Probably Spying On You" better describes what this post is about. Not using the original router can be due to all kinds of reasons, not just privacy

Re: ISP Spying

#33
Another cool thing about WiFi routers is that you can use them as radars to monitor people in a home. The 2.4ghz frequency is perfect for reflecting off water bodies while having great penetration through walls.

Re: ISP Spying

#34
post #33

Another cool thing about WiFi routers is that you can use them as radars to monitor people in a home. The 2.4ghz frequency is perfect for reflecting off water bodies while having great penetration through walls.

I wonder what kind of resolution you can achieve.

Would it be ghostly figures or more like black and white photos?

Re: ISP Spying

#35
post #10

I don't know if it's true, but I've heard that some ISPs route your entire traffic through their machines. They even have access to your IP packets. Very shady!

ISP's intercepting HTTP traffic to modify it is far from unheard of. In the best case, this is to notify customers of required changes. This is actually used by comcast [1]. In the worst case, this is a service sold to advertisers, or a service that includes arbitrary java-script injection. For something close to the worst case, see [2] (previously discussed on HN [3]).

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6108

[2] https://defplex.wordpress.com/2017/08/15/how-a-south-african...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15423393

Re: ISP Spying

#36
post #33

Another cool thing about WiFi routers is that you can use them as radars to monitor people in a home. The 2.4ghz frequency is perfect for reflecting off water bodies while having great penetration through walls.

I wonder what kind of resolution you can achieve. Would it be ghostly figures or more like black and white photos?

The URLs [1] [2] describe the content. I thought [1] was interesting but not answering your question. [2] Answers your question, and shows black and white and thermal pictures.

[1] https://www.medgadget.com/2014/06/mits-wifi-system-detects-p... (June 2014)

[2] https://hackaday.io/project/5452-wifi-thermal-camera (2015)

[EDIT] I stand corrected, [2] is unrelated. My bad! Here's some good sources as alternative.

"MIT turns Wi-Fi Into Indoor GPS New tech from CSAIL lab lets one Wi-Fi device locate another to within centimeters" [3]

"RF-Capture: Capturing the Human Figure Through a Wall

It can know who the person behind a wall is. It can trace a person's handwriting in air from behind a wall. It can determine how a person behind a wall is moving." [4]

They also contain further resources.

[3] https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/telecom/wireless/mit-tur...

[4] http://rfcapture.csail.mit.edu/

Re: ISP Spying

#37
post #33

Another cool thing about WiFi routers is that you can use them as radars to monitor people in a home. The 2.4ghz frequency is perfect for reflecting off water bodies while having great penetration through walls.

I would like more details on this. Especially links to any software that lets you "see" in the 2.4ghz spectrum.

Re: ISP Spying

#38
post #4

I always assume that they might be. So I always use my own perimeter router/firewall running pfSense. Plus I use VPN services. And so my ISps don't end up seeing anything except encrypted streams. And have no visibility into my vLANs.

mikrotik devices are also very nice for this (router). not too expensive, stable and well supported

Re: ISP Spying

#39
ISP Spy: Hey boss, looks this guy in Oslo has a friend called Dave who owns an Android device. ISP CEO: This is it! We're gonna be rich boys! Arrange a meeting with GlobalAdvertCorp immediately.

Re: ISP Spying

#40
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what kind of resolution you can achieve. Would it be ghostly figures or more like black and white photos?

The URLs [1] [2] describe the content. I thought [1] was interesting but not answering your question. [2] Answers your question, and shows black and white and thermal pictures. [1] https://www.medgadget.com/2014/06/mits-wifi-system-detects-p... (June 2014) [2] https://hackaday.io/project/5452-wifi-thermal-camera (2015) [EDIT] I stand corrected, [2] is unrelated. My bad! Here's some good sources as alternative. "MIT t…

[2] is a thermal camera with WiFi connectivity, it's completely unrelated.
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