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Coinbase Commerce: merchants can accept multiple digital currencies

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Re: Coinbase Commerce: merchants can accept multiple digital currencies

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No mention of the time delay between accepting funds and withdrawing the funds. How would a merchant refund the customer in fiat or crypto?

They are also working on Lightning Network integration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXe-wQyrWw&feature=youtu.be

Lightning Ramp isn't a Coinbase project, it just integrates with them.

Re: Coinbase Commerce: merchants can accept multiple digital currencies

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Bitcoin alone is responsible for this reputation of slow transaction times among cryptocurrencies. Litecoin and Ethereum have the same blockchain architecture but are mined faster, so they are faster, but this linear improvement may not be sufficient for scaling. Minerless "DAG" coins like Nano may prove to be more practical in the long run because they scale exponentially. re: Value change during a transaction: vola…

your logic is funny, is like having a busy site with a postgress db, and saying postgress is at fault, look at my mysql wordpress site with 1.3 visitors per day, how fast it is. Ethereum will colapse on itself sooner of later, no one managed to sync a node recently.

This is wrong and i’m shocked to see it on HN. ETH is currently do 3-4x the daily transactions of bitcoin and doing it for far less/much faster.

The only people who aren’t aware of this spend all their time on highly censored platforms like /r/bitcoin

Re: Coinbase Commerce: merchants can accept multiple digital currencies

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There's also the GloBee[0] payment processor. It accepts Monero, so you're able to maintain your privacy whilst consuming like a capitalist zombie. [0] https://globee.com/

That's not going to last long, it's basically an open invite for money laundering.

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Nano takes like 4 seconds to confirm and has zero fees for transfer. It's really a no-brainer, but unfortunately this Bitgrail thing is going to muddy the waters for a long time.

BTC survived Mt. Gox and Bitfinex, NEM survived Coincheck, and fiat currencies survived many a bank robbery. Investor perception is low because the theft hurt early adopters, but I think that the technology will shine through sooner rather than later.

I'm with you for the long hodl.

Re: Coinbase Commerce: merchants can accept multiple digital currencies

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Agree, lots of value can be provided to services in the grey-area. Specifically Coinbase doesn't allow this. Under "Prohibited Businesses" you can see "Adult Content and Services" being listed. Source: https://www.coinbase.com/legal/user_agreement?locale=en

There is no such clause in the Coinbase Commerce TOS[0], and "Coinbase Commerce accounts are completely separate from Coinbase accounts"[1]. Also not sure what the Coinbase Commerce account is even for since "Coinbase Commerce is not a hosted service". [0]: https://commerce.coinbase.com/legal/terms-of-service/ [1]: https://commerce.coinbase.com/faq

That's true, didn't know about that. However, the Coinbase Commerce has a clause that I guess (if they feel like), can apply for adult entertainment businesses.

> You agree not to use the Services in ways that:

> Are illegal, obscene, defamatory, threatening, intimidating, harassing, hateful, racially, or ethnically offensive, or instigate or encourage conduct that would be illegal, or otherwise inappropriate, including promoting violent crimes;

Depending on who you ask, "obscene" and "otherwise inappropriate" can cover adult entertainment.

Guess it's impossible for us to guess, unless a case goes to court.

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What does this mean for a crypto project like Request Network ( https://request.network/#/ ) which is trying to become the "Paypal for cryptocurrencies"? I am genuinely curious as I own some REQ, believe in the team, but also like what Coinbase has done to bring crypto to the masses (minus the outrageous fees of course).

My personal opinion about Request and similar projects. I have been using bitcoin for a while, I have payed for real goods and online services with it and I've following the crypto ecosystem for a few years. I really can't see the reason for more than just a handful of competing cryptocurrencies becoming mediums of exchange. Request's goal is noble, but I think that they'd be better off working on implementing paymen…

I also think there are way too many projects in this space and most of them are very obvious money grabs. Ultimately only a few projects will survive and gain mainstream adoption.

I am really on the face regarding bitcoin though: it is the grandfather of all those crypto projects and massively moves the market, but I don't quite understand how it could ever replace a currency given its very limited supply and astronomical unit economic price: it was not supposed to be a store of value like gold when it started.

Ultimately, I think a few projects with much higher coins in circulation and faster transaction times will end up becoming more valuable due to greater usability.

It's a shame it feels like REQ is a bit late to the game, but they do have ambitious plans, one of them is to enable cross-currency transactions (including fiat). No-one has yet gained the first mover advantage in this space so the jury is still out.

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Nothing really stops you from processing crypto-coins unlike credit cards where Visa and MasterCard have the last say. With crypto you no longer need approval from the platform owner. If you don't like Coinbase you can create your own coinbase-like platform. You have to remember that with fiat you don't have much control over your money either unless it's cash so I believe crypto-coins are a big step forward. Buying…

Are there any checkout systems pre-built solely for holding crypto afterwards, and not for converting to fiat? Guessing Coinbase has to have it like that because they interact with wider networks. If you wanted to sell a saucy story, how'd it work? Essentially a hot wallet with a webhook?

You’d just need an extended public key that gives unique addresses to buyers and a price API to provide rate conversions. Your private key can be offline or on a hard wallet. Also see btcpayserver for an open source bitpay clone that does what you are thinking and more

Re: Coinbase Commerce: merchants can accept multiple digital currencies

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There's also the GloBee[0] payment processor. It accepts Monero, so you're able to maintain your privacy whilst consuming like a capitalist zombie. [0] https://globee.com/

That's not going to last long, it's basically an open invite for money laundering.

I can't think of anything that is universally good other than God. & from what I've heard about the Old Testament that's not even true!

So we a situation where people can't even construct something from their imagination that is virtuous in all concerns. & people want financial technology to meet that bar? Seems unlikely to me.

Could there be some money laundering? Probably. Will there be attempts by the owners of the payment processor to stop such a thing? Probably. Will there be perfection? Probably not.

From what I understand, most money laundering occurs in the traditional financial system. Does it follow we should tear it down?

& besides, I thought crypto(assets) were a fad. A bubble. A figment of the imagination. A plaything for greater fools. If that's true, it's hardly worth worrying about.

Re: Coinbase Commerce: merchants can accept multiple digital currencies

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What does this mean for a crypto project like Request Network ( https://request.network/#/ ) which is trying to become the "Paypal for cryptocurrencies"? I am genuinely curious as I own some REQ, believe in the team, but also like what Coinbase has done to bring crypto to the masses (minus the outrageous fees of course).

I don't understand why companies would compare their offering to paypal but don't offer escrow. I suppose people use paypal for paying individuals but not as much as for goods/services, right?
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