Live data from Hacker News

Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

blatanterror.com

31–40 of 61 posts

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#31
post #14

I'm not a runner but I am a hiker and what I learned was to buy resoleable boots (obviously this opinion is of no value to runners). There are lots of decent midpriced boots but all have the soles glued on. Typically they don't even last 1000 miles before they wear out and need replacement. The problem is that by then they have adjusted properly to my foot! Now i've had the same boot for almost a decade, having been…

Brand recommendations? The last three half hight hiking shoes I’ve bought have fallen apart in months...

Well I personally don't believe in hiking shoes; I like a solid boot with ankle support, and find the hiking shoes sacrifice performance.

Yes, they are heavy, but they protect me from all sorts of absurd trail problems (ice, rocks, mine tailings, "punji sticks", weird grades and rock edges, etc). The stiffer sole prevents arch fatigue.

(Trick, which I did first for my off the shelf Asolo boots: I had the cobbler take them apart and put in a device that was basically a plastic half pipe with a flat plate at one end. The plate went above the boot sole and under the internal sole (under my foot) and the half pipe ran up the back of my ankle. Gave be a lot of additional stability on uncertain ground and prevented pronation). Even those Asolos were only about $300 and lasted a few years; I had the sole repaired at about 400 mi and then tried again, fruitlessly, after another couple of hundred. But they were super comfortable.

I had my boots custom made from a guy I met through my (then) local camping store in the Prenzlauer Berg. Cost about 1000 Euros. Sounds like a lot but on a per mile basis they have been cheap and they fit my feet like a glove.

Your best bet would be to talk to your local cobbler (what repairs can they make?) and your camping store because you need a local network who can support your boot. Also Dave Page in Seattle is THE GURU hiking boot cobbler and may recommend something. I have found the uppers of Asolo and Vasques boots to be outstanding, and I use a pair of modified Asolos as my jungle boots.

Oh, and despite what I said about hiking "shoes", I did hike from yosemite to the desolation wilderness (tahoe-yosemite trail) in Chaco sandals which have no ankle support. I wouldn't do it again, and all my toes ended up bloody, but it was actually pretty good.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#32
post #29

My friend, the company you need to go visit is Vivobarefoot. They are not as cheap as your Chinese shoe, but they are the wide-toebox, no-support, tough-as-nails-soles that you have been looking for. https://www.vivobarefoot.com/ Because of them, every shoe that I wear for every occasion can be minimal and I get to feel everything under my feet everywhere I go. I even have fancy black leather shoes for special occasi…

Those prices are astronomical, though. $240 for a pair of shoes, when according to the author of the original article, something that serves the purpose is available for a dollar a pair?!

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#33

I had a pair of Trail Gloves pictured and they were great. Every pair of Merrells I've bought since have been disappointing. Either wore down too fast or were uncomfortable.

I remember when the Trail Gloves came out, Merrell seemed to be really into minimal shoes. They even had what looked like dress shoes but with a thin and flexible sole, like the Trail Glove. Last time I looked for new shoes Merrell was pretty disappointing, it seems like the minimal shoes didn't sell well enough.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#35
post #29

My friend, the company you need to go visit is Vivobarefoot. They are not as cheap as your Chinese shoe, but they are the wide-toebox, no-support, tough-as-nails-soles that you have been looking for. https://www.vivobarefoot.com/ Because of them, every shoe that I wear for every occasion can be minimal and I get to feel everything under my feet everywhere I go. I even have fancy black leather shoes for special occasi…

Seconding Vivo. I've been wearing them for about a decade, from the time they were called Worn Again. Love their shoes.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#36
post #29

My friend, the company you need to go visit is Vivobarefoot. They are not as cheap as your Chinese shoe, but they are the wide-toebox, no-support, tough-as-nails-soles that you have been looking for. https://www.vivobarefoot.com/ Because of them, every shoe that I wear for every occasion can be minimal and I get to feel everything under my feet everywhere I go. I even have fancy black leather shoes for special occasi…

Those prices are astronomical, though. $240 for a pair of shoes, when according to the author of the original article, something that serves the purpose is available for a dollar a pair?!

Probably they're more expensive in the US than the UK. Wait till they have a sale and get them for 50% off.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#37
post #3

I just wish I could get shoes wide enough for my feet. Anything wide enough is too long (a good 4cm of wasted space at the front). I have tried supposedly extra wide shoes like Lems, but the only thing that is comfortable is either the Vibram Five Fingers or Crocs (terrible for running) or some Birkenstocks (just).

I have very wide feet. In the UK shoe measurement system a width of H is the widest. One of my feet is H, and the other one is wider. I wear Vivobarefoot https://www.vivobarefoot.com/ and they actually fit. I'm no longer buying shoes 1-2 sizes too big to fit my feet. I'm currently wearing Gobi for every day wear, and exercise in a Stealth II. All of these needed a bit of time to break in. When I tried on a Primus they were a bit tight all around, so probably best to avoid that style (or try them on yourself).

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#38
post #29

My friend, the company you need to go visit is Vivobarefoot. They are not as cheap as your Chinese shoe, but they are the wide-toebox, no-support, tough-as-nails-soles that you have been looking for. https://www.vivobarefoot.com/ Because of them, every shoe that I wear for every occasion can be minimal and I get to feel everything under my feet everywhere I go. I even have fancy black leather shoes for special occasi…

Seconding Vivo. I've been wearing them for about a decade, from the time they were called Worn Again. Love their shoes.

[deleted]

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those prices are astronomical, though. $240 for a pair of shoes, when according to the author of the original article, something that serves the purpose is available for a dollar a pair?!

Probably they're more expensive in the US than the UK. Wait till they have a sale and get them for 50% off.

$120 is still astronomical.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

#40
post #2

I really liked the Merrill hikers I started buying about 10 years ago. I wore out about 4 pair over the course of about 6 years. Then they quit making them and the next time I tried to buy a pair of Merrill's none of them were near as good. There were a lot of discussions on a backpacking forum I belong to about this and the universal consensus came to be that Merrill was no longer a shoe we could recommend. As they…

You can't fool hikers and runners for very long, but you can fool people who want to be hikers and runners, since the shoes mostly sit in the closet.
Post reply on HN