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Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

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Post by jedberg »

singingboyo wrote: post #23
toast0 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why care about the exterior? You don't see it when you're driving.

To be fair, the older Odysseys were really damn ugly. Newer ones are slightly better, but not amazing. Of course, interior wins over exterior every time, but I do admit to some confusion as to why anyone bought the old ones.

I didn't even think about the exterior when I bought it. It's for my family, so all I worried about were features that will make my family comfortable while giving me a good driving experience.

I suspect that's why all those old vans were bought too -- you don't get a van for its styling. :)

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#32

Post by jedberg »

susanhi wrote: post #29
jedberg wrote: post #18

I used to be super gung-ho about Tesla. I've preordered the X and the 3. Never pulled the trigger on the X, and probably gonna give back my 3 reservation too. I love the way the car drives. The driver experience is amazing, with the way it just goes where you want and autopilot just driving it on the freeway for me. If it was just me, I would get one. But the interiors are awful. They let me test drive an X for a day…

I highly suggest sitting in a Model 3 before giving up your reservation. My expectations were not high from the pictures, but we took delivery 2 weeks ago and it is a phenomenal car and the interior is gorgeous. It reminds me of a mid-century modern piece of furniture. I'm coming from a Model S, have done a couple of week-long test drives of the X, and the Model 3 interior is IMO far superior. I think they'll need to…

Yeah I won't give up on the 3 until I actually get to sit in one and drive one. Both of my wife's brothers pre-ordered too, so I'll probably get a chance to hear about a lot of first hand experience.

Thank you though for the details, it does help to hear that the pictures aren't doing it justice.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#33

Post by netsharc »

susanhi wrote: post #29
jedberg wrote: post #18

I used to be super gung-ho about Tesla. I've preordered the X and the 3. Never pulled the trigger on the X, and probably gonna give back my 3 reservation too. I love the way the car drives. The driver experience is amazing, with the way it just goes where you want and autopilot just driving it on the freeway for me. If it was just me, I would get one. But the interiors are awful. They let me test drive an X for a day…

I highly suggest sitting in a Model 3 before giving up your reservation. My expectations were not high from the pictures, but we took delivery 2 weeks ago and it is a phenomenal car and the interior is gorgeous. It reminds me of a mid-century modern piece of furniture. I'm coming from a Model S, have done a couple of week-long test drives of the X, and the Model 3 interior is IMO far superior. I think they'll need to…

How are the rear seats? Saw the S and X in a car show. Got in the rear of the S, holy crap, because of the battery underneath, as an adult you're basically squatting when you sit in the back (this guy is only partially sitting: https://youtu.be/XGjlSOGgDXI?t=28).

Edit: looking at some other car reviews, it seems it's a normal way to sit in the back, but in the Model S I felt like my knees were bent so much more.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#34

Post by susanhi »

netsharc wrote: post #33
susanhi wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly suggest sitting in a Model 3 before giving up your reservation. My expectations were not high from the pictures, but we took delivery 2 weeks ago and it is a phenomenal car and the interior is gorgeous. It reminds me of a mid-century modern piece of furniture. I'm coming from a Model S, have done a couple of week-long test drives of the X, and the Model 3 interior is IMO far superior. I think they'll need to…

How are the rear seats? Saw the S and X in a car show. Got in the rear of the S, holy crap, because of the battery underneath, as an adult you're basically squatting when you sit in the back (this guy is only partially sitting: https://youtu.be/XGjlSOGgDXI?t=28 ). Edit: looking at some other car reviews, it seems it's a normal way to sit in the back, but in the Model S I felt like my knees were bent so much more.

I haven’t spent too much time back there since I have two little ones (in car seats) back there.

But I did sit back there when we first got it and was really surprised at how much head room there was. I think the extra head space might be due to the glass roof.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#35

Post by singingboyo »

jedberg wrote: post #31
singingboyo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, the older Odysseys were really damn ugly. Newer ones are slightly better, but not amazing. Of course, interior wins over exterior every time, but I do admit to some confusion as to why anyone bought the old ones.

I didn't even think about the exterior when I bought it. It's for my family, so all I worried about were features that will make my family comfortable while giving me a good driving experience. I suspect that's why all those old vans were bought too -- you don't get a van for its styling. :)

That's true, you certainly don't. Honestly, it's true of any car - if something looked like a PT Cruiser (to pick a stereotype) but did what I wanted far better than anything else, I probably would have gotten despite the exterior. Though that is absurdly hard to imagine, so it's hard to be sure what would happen.

In any case, I think exterior certainly comes into play at a subconscious level after looking at a bunch of different models for a month... and if two vehicles are otherwise very similar, I might opt for a slightly nicer exterior over, say, 3-level vs 2-level heated seats, or rain-sensing wipers. (On that note, I've never found a rain-sensing wiper system that I liked...)

For context, though, I'm in Vancouver, and as a city we're rather snobby about car appearances.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#36

Post by pkulak »

netsharc wrote: post #33
susanhi wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly suggest sitting in a Model 3 before giving up your reservation. My expectations were not high from the pictures, but we took delivery 2 weeks ago and it is a phenomenal car and the interior is gorgeous. It reminds me of a mid-century modern piece of furniture. I'm coming from a Model S, have done a couple of week-long test drives of the X, and the Model 3 interior is IMO far superior. I think they'll need to…

How are the rear seats? Saw the S and X in a car show. Got in the rear of the S, holy crap, because of the battery underneath, as an adult you're basically squatting when you sit in the back (this guy is only partially sitting: https://youtu.be/XGjlSOGgDXI?t=28 ). Edit: looking at some other car reviews, it seems it's a normal way to sit in the back, but in the Model S I felt like my knees were bent so much more.

I think you'll get the same feeling in the 3. But all indications are way more knee/head room than you'd expect. Not sure which one I'd rather have, but I also never sit in the back up my own car, and my kids are still in car seats.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#37

Post by kabdib »

whafro wrote: post #30
spectrum1234 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're okay with ugly exterior though?

Everyone differs here, but I think the X is actually pretty ugly at the front. The hood and grille just seem like a fussy child's face. I still love the look of the S, and think it's aging pretty well, but I couldn't bring myself to get the X in part because of the exterior design. I ended up with a 2018 XC60.

The T8?

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#38

Post by ovao »

S_A_P wrote: post #25
ovao wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m surprised somewhat less by that and more by the fact that the staff isn’t doing a better job keeping them clean. After all, how dirty could a typical Tesla storegoer be? I can’t imagine the answer to that would be “very”.

You'd be surprised. And what makes you think that the only person coming through a store in the largest mall in the city of Houston is necessarily a Tesla shopper. But largely, just repeated entry and exit into these showroom vehicles probably simulates 5 years of wear for every year they sit.

> And what makes you think that the only person coming through a store in the largest mall in the city of Houston is necessarily a Tesla shopper.

I don’t. I said “Tesla storegoer”. If a person enters a mall in which there is a Tesla store, they do not become a “Tesla storegoer” if they don’t enter...the Tesla store.

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#39

Post by rsync »

jedberg wrote: post #18

I used to be super gung-ho about Tesla. I've preordered the X and the 3. Never pulled the trigger on the X, and probably gonna give back my 3 reservation too. I love the way the car drives. The driver experience is amazing, with the way it just goes where you want and autopilot just driving it on the freeway for me. If it was just me, I would get one. But the interiors are awful. They let me test drive an X for a day…

"But the interiors are awful."

This cannot be overstated. The interiors are indeed awful.

The interior of a maxed out Model S approaches the fit, finish, materials and features of the low end germans (A4, 3Series, Cclass) from below.

In fact, while I find it hard to believe, it appears that many Model S drivers are driving their very first expensive car. Forum comments/postings make it very clear that they are not comparing these cars to others in their price category (A8, etc.)

Re: Tesla soliciting supplier quotes for Model Y crossover, production March 1, 2020

#40

Post by jedberg »

singingboyo wrote: post #35
jedberg wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't even think about the exterior when I bought it. It's for my family, so all I worried about were features that will make my family comfortable while giving me a good driving experience. I suspect that's why all those old vans were bought too -- you don't get a van for its styling. :)

That's true, you certainly don't. Honestly, it's true of any car - if something looked like a PT Cruiser (to pick a stereotype) but did what I wanted far better than anything else, I probably would have gotten despite the exterior. Though that is absurdly hard to imagine, so it's hard to be sure what would happen. In any case, I think exterior certainly comes into play at a subconscious level after looking at a bunch…

> I've never found a rain-sensing wiper system that I liked...

Me neither, they're always too aggressive. I end up doing by hand, which would be super hard on Model 3 from what I hear.

> For context, though, I'm in Vancouver, and as a city we're rather snobby about car appearances.

I grew up in Southern California. I doubt you will find a place more snobby about their cars. :)

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