Great. I bet the humans that falsely get this will be thrilled.
Blocking via an Unsolvable CAPTCHA
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#32Using Google from Tor brings to this kind of stuff.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Coinbase did that to me and at least three people I know personally. You’re not a special edge case —- they just suck.
I attended a talk by Coinbase. They get A LOT of fraudulent activity (both high end and amateur). They have like 7-8 employees who handle all the manual aspects of user verification. So they have to rely heavily on automated solutions. I have never used them so I don't know how often they flag false positives but based on that talk I would at least qualify the statement with "it's a hard problem!"
Treating your users like shit is actually a pretty easy problem to solve. It's companies that don't 'care' to solve it that cause this kind of strife. Coinbase pulled the same shit with me.
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#34That's literally what it takes to get something patented? For better or worse, maybe by patenting it, we won't see that solution used in many products from other companies. Hmm, maybe I should start thinking up annoying things that future software might do for profit, and patent them now to stop companies from doing them for a while.
> maybe by patenting it, we won't see that solution used in many products from other companies My favorite in this genre is IBM's patent on patent trolling: https://www.google.com/patents/US20070244837
Huh, they even had the guts to put “troll” in the document four times.
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#35This makes me think of userbinator's comment from yesterday's Google Memory Loss post. To add insult to injury, if you do try to make complex and slightly varying queries and exhaust its result pages in an effort to find something you know exists, very often it will think you're a robot and present you with a CAPTCHA, or just ban you completely (solving the CAPTCHA just gives you another, and no matter how many you s…
I think most people don’t realize this “endless” CAPTCHA is actually an average of three iterations. You’re supposed to stop when you see no squares with X in them. That is, you should click submit even when there are zero squares matching the CAPTCHA criteria. Once you realize this it’s way less confusing, and in fact it even clearly states the instructions at the top of the CAPTCHA. But it’s super confusing and def…
That's not the issue here though. I had this happen to me with the old 'type these two street numbers' captcha as well: it would just present a new captcha after the old one was solved correctly. Makes me give up instantly whenever I got a captcha while doing Google searches.
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#36That's literally what it takes to get something patented? For better or worse, maybe by patenting it, we won't see that solution used in many products from other companies. Hmm, maybe I should start thinking up annoying things that future software might do for profit, and patent them now to stop companies from doing them for a while.
Getting a patent on pretty much anything is a relatively straightforward (if somewhat arduous) bureaucratic process. I got one on a device that lets you communicate faster than light:
https://www.google.com/patents/US20030133714
Of course it doesn't actually work, but figuring out why makes an interesting exercise.
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#37That's literally what it takes to get something patented? For better or worse, maybe by patenting it, we won't see that solution used in many products from other companies. Hmm, maybe I should start thinking up annoying things that future software might do for profit, and patent them now to stop companies from doing them for a while.
Getting a patent on pretty much anything is a relatively straightforward (if somewhat arduous) bureaucratic process. I got one on a device that lets you communicate faster than light: https://www.google.com/patents/US20030133714 Of course it doesn't actually work, but figuring out why makes an interesting exercise.
Is it because quantum entangled particles propagate their changes at the speed of light? Making the invention work, just not any faster than normal methods?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> maybe by patenting it, we won't see that solution used in many products from other companies My favorite in this genre is IBM's patent on patent trolling: https://www.google.com/patents/US20070244837
Then why they didn't weaponize it against patent trolls?
Maybe they don't get targeted?
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think most people don’t realize this “endless” CAPTCHA is actually an average of three iterations. You’re supposed to stop when you see no squares with X in them. That is, you should click submit even when there are zero squares matching the CAPTCHA criteria. Once you realize this it’s way less confusing, and in fact it even clearly states the instructions at the top of the CAPTCHA. But it’s super confusing and def…
Not in my experience. It would give me “select cars until none are visible” and it would be replacing the last car by another one for a long time. Then, when there are finally none, it would just offer another captcha, such a as “click on storefronts until there are none”. And so on and on
Their mapping AI isn't going to train itself, and unlike the proofreading CAPTCHA, this one actually benefits Google's bottom line by providing free input for a proprietary data set.
These Google CAPTCHA's are deployed all over the internet, but you mostly won't notice them until you use a VPN. When you do, you get them at what seems to be their strictest setting: multiple rounds of 'click the object that is a car/storefront/road/mountain/road sign/bus/river', where all pictures clicked are replaced via a fade-out-fade-in that lasts about five seconds before you can continue evaluating the new picture.
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#40This makes me think of userbinator's comment from yesterday's Google Memory Loss post. To add insult to injury, if you do try to make complex and slightly varying queries and exhaust its result pages in an effort to find something you know exists, very often it will think you're a robot and present you with a CAPTCHA, or just ban you completely (solving the CAPTCHA just gives you another, and no matter how many you s…
I thought this item would be related to that very popular item... I saw it mentioned in discussion. At work I just recently managed to trip it three times in one day, which I consider a record since in the past I've encountered it at most a few times a week. What's more infuriating is that my queries were far less complex than the ones that tripped it before (trying to find information about some API constants), basi…
Happened to me as well. As far as I can tell bing doesn’t seem to do that, or at least it is harder to trigger.