It's great to see continued maintenance of this important project, and it'll be interesting to see the results of a visual refresh.
thunderbird has over 20 years lineage, and I've screenshots of the major stages at:
Thunderbird Starts Working on Improving Its Interface
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#32A redesign is a great symbolic move to fight "Thunderbird’s key problem is being perceived as either dead or stagnant". Still, Thunderbird needs a bigger vision. What does Thunderbird want to be? The cross-platform Outlook? Then merge Lightning into core. The native Gmail? Then get a conversations view. The backwards-compatible, easy, and secure mailer? Then merge Enigmail into core or make SMIME easy to use or get s…
"Thunderbird’s key problem is being perceived as either dead or stagnant" Some of us spell that "stable and reliable" and consider it the single most important property of our essential day-to-day software. If it ain't broke...
I'd say the difference between dead and stable is if you encounter bugs all the time. I find Thunderbird stable (only triggers a bug roughly once per month and nothing critical) while the Lightning plugin for calender functionality is dead (fails to sync with Google for months).
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#33Great. Can we have multiple lines per mail in the mail column or is that still not possible ? /rant
No you currently cannot. That's what I put in the suggestions box in the survey.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Thunderbird’s key problem is being perceived as either dead or stagnant" Some of us spell that "stable and reliable" and consider it the single most important property of our essential day-to-day software. If it ain't broke...
In that case, we would all still be using Pine.
I used to love pine but managing it well with Gmail was terrible as I would have to clean up the inbox and this couldn't be done automatically.
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#35I noticed it's an extension rather than just a theme.
Has someone audited this for malware?
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Thunderbird’s key problem is being perceived as either dead or stagnant" Some of us spell that "stable and reliable" and consider it the single most important property of our essential day-to-day software. If it ain't broke...
I'd say the difference between dead and stable is if you encounter bugs all the time. I find Thunderbird stable (only triggers a bug roughly once per month and nothing critical) while the Lightning plugin for calender functionality is dead (fails to sync with Google for months).
FWIW, I do use Lightning all the time and only know of a couple of minor UI bugs, and at least one other person in my house uses it to sync with external calendars routinely without serious problems as well, so if there are serious bugs there then they don't seem to be universal. In any case, I'd much rather fixing this sort of thing was the priority for the project than yet another UI theme overhaul because reasons.
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#37Does anyone else feel that most UI redesigns are just change for the sake of change that don't actually make anything better?
In this case, I don't. I previously chose KMail over Thunderbird, solely because Thunderbird's UI felt too massive and cluttered to me.
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#38A redesign is a great symbolic move to fight "Thunderbird’s key problem is being perceived as either dead or stagnant". Still, Thunderbird needs a bigger vision. What does Thunderbird want to be? The cross-platform Outlook? Then merge Lightning into core. The native Gmail? Then get a conversations view. The backwards-compatible, easy, and secure mailer? Then merge Enigmail into core or make SMIME easy to use or get s…
> or get some Rust code in lol
No. Add blockchain somehow.
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#39The two interfaces are the same. The new one has more colors and smaller buttons. I'll trade larger buttons for the colors.
I'll trade everything for being able to see as many messages as I'll always did. Not another Skype like redesign with lots of useless white space around messages, thanks.
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#40Former Thunderbird user here. Much more important than shiny new UI, what I'd like to see is seamless out-of-the-box syncing with online calendars and contacts . (At one point, I tried all the available add-ons for syncing with Google's apps; none of those add-ons worked well for me.)
Importantly, since this is a Mozilla project, that service should be self-hostable [1] to disintermediate the multi-device synchronization platform. It should not be necessary to have a third-party observe all my contacts and calendars. [1] https://github.com/mozilla-services/
No need for Mozilla to make server software for this; Thunderbird/Lightning do CalDav and CardDav just fine, right? Seems that cs702's problem isn't with Thunderbird, it's with Google supporting CalDav and CardDav for sync.
If you want to self host, just host any CalDav or CardDav server software.