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I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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The bigger screen size is useful. The 7" was, admittedly, a little too small. However, you're totally right on everything else. If they could offer $200-250 models again, I might even buy one on impulse. They really need to compete hard and drive the price down; the Kindle, iPad, cell phones and new Android tablets are making the market more competitive.

The 9inch that I had might be the sweet spot for me. Although it was the keyboard that killed it for me, slightly small and the tilde key was removed an all the numbers pushed left as a consequence. Could never really get used to it. If they could somehow get a bit more key space on the 9inch that would be good but otherwise I'd probably need a 10inch. That said very happy with the mobility vs size tradeoff that my 1…

If they could even design a model with a bigger keyboard and a screen that took up less than the available space to keep the price low, they might get fat fingered people like myself to consider one.

I don't necessarily mind the small screen, but the keyboard size keeps me from seriously considering a netbook.

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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Isn't that just an ultra-portable PC, rather than a netbook? I thought the whole point of a netbook is that it was very cheap but underpowered (though more than enough for the internet, hence its name).

That does seem to be the point of netbooks, although I never really understood the reasoning behind it. It's underpowered but you are supposed to surf the net with it? If there's one program that is a performance and memory hog, it's a web browser.

They actually make pretty decent MS-Office machines and super portable dev boxes.

Or if you want to put together a cheapo NAS, a netbook, a couple USB hubs and a half dozen 1TB external HD's will serve as a pretty decent NAS for a fraction of the price with tons more capability.

Or as a little print server or cheapo box to test network junk on

Or a super portable slide presentation machine (with one of those pocket projectors) for doing pitches (bonus, you can also edit the slides on it!)

They're also small enough to open up all the way in coach on a plane, with space left over for a mouse and your drink so you can get some work done on a long flight (whether that be writing documentation, putting together presentations, hacking some code, or whatever else you want).

On vacations I use mine to offload photos from my camera, then I can go and sort and edit them while watching TV that night, and it's small enough to fit in every tiny hotel safe I've ever come across. Being able to do this has saved more than one traveling companion from disaster...folks who had left their laptops behind in lieu of a portable HD for offloading their pictures.

They're fast enough to play some old games (I like to play Sim City 4k on mine), but it plays lots of casual games like plants vs. zombies ok.

or watch some ripped movies, pretty much any ripped DVD will play fine on it (I also have an external drive I can hook up, but I usually leave that at home). I have usually a dozen or so movies on mine at any one time. I rarely turn the hotel TV on when I travel.

I also have about 10GB of old 78s ripped to mp3 on it for background music when I can't get on the web (http://78records.cdbpdx.com/).

It's fast enough to run emulators for anything It's small enough I literally can't tell if it's in my backpack or not, and it's so small it takes up the same space as a book.

Oh, and I have a few thousand e-books on mine (and comics CBZ, CBRs).

And I have some music production software on it, it's good for most things so long as I don't rely on too many real-time effects or push the multi-channel stuff too hard. But I've cranked out a couple decent tunes on it.

It can, in a pinch, act as an emergency swap out for a main computer. My wife's computer died in an electrical storm, and for a couple weeks, she just hooked my netbook up to her monitor and ran it at 1680x1050 to get some MS-Office work done. She plugged a USB keyboard and mouse into the available slots and still had another left over for her thumb drive she drags back and forth to work. That basically saved her job over one particularly grueling project. It wasn't super speedy, but she got her work done.

I'd imagine taking it to school would be perfect because it's so small it fits on a regular student desk with space left over for a mouse.

You could probably travel with one of these https://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/usb-gadgets/c609/ and get some multi-monitor goodness from it while on the road.

Overall, I'd say it's probably the best $300 I've ever spent on a piece of consumer hardware. I do a ton of traveling and my netbook has literally been around the world with me half a dozen times. I've entirely stopped taking my regular laptop with me as I found I simply didn't use it and it felt super bulky in comparison (plus I couldn't figure out what to do with it when I was out of the hotel room since I couldn't fit it into a safe).

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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Oh yes, Dave Whiner #. I like Asus' netbook. I needed an extra Windows box at work, so I picked up a $300 eeepc. Very useful, and the battery lasts forever. It's like an iPad, except that I can do whatever I want with it, and it's cheaper. If this is "failure", I like failure.

Good point. Plus, Asus opened up a whole new category of computers, and the general netbook move put more emphasis on portability and battery life on all laptops. Let's not forget that!

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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Oh yes, Dave Whiner #. I like Asus' netbook. I needed an extra Windows box at work, so I picked up a $300 eeepc. Very useful, and the battery lasts forever. It's like an iPad, except that I can do whatever I want with it, and it's cheaper. If this is "failure", I like failure.

I like my Asus too. I had an EEE, now I am on something a bit bigger (UL30V). It's nice having the performance and battery life (2 graphics cards and settings that change with 2 keys).

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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What's interesting is Asus netbooks have almost disappeared from stores I regularly shop at, but there's more netbooks in stock than ever. HP + Dell minis, Acer Aspire One's, and Samsung's nice lineup of netbooks they have this year. The category is definitely still there, and current-gen netbooks are actually fairly nice computers, but Asus really isn't the one leading here anymore...

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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Nothing's changing at the low end of the netbook lines because they're all still shipping with Windows XP or Windows 7 Starter, so the hardware has to be nearly crippled. Thanks, Microsoft. But at the higher end there are some neat ones. I got an Asus 1201N, which has a dual-core Atom, real Windows 7, and HDMI out. Makes a decent travelling machine and can handle almost any media needs.

Isn't that just an ultra-portable PC, rather than a netbook? I thought the whole point of a netbook is that it was very cheap but underpowered (though more than enough for the internet, hence its name).

Microsoft still sells XP to Netbook OEMs, but places hard (they don't change over time) limits on the hardware they can use

[Edit: can find very little on the XP limitations, apart from a 1Gb memory limit, but found the following conditions on using Win 7 Starter

* Screens cannot exceed 10.2 inches

* Maximum 1 GB of RAM

* Maximum 250 GB HDD or 64 SSD

* CPU must not exceed 2 GHz, and have a CPU thermal design power that is less than or equal to 15 W, not including the graphics and chipset.]

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger screen size is useful. The 7" was, admittedly, a little too small. However, you're totally right on everything else. If they could offer $200-250 models again, I might even buy one on impulse. They really need to compete hard and drive the price down; the Kindle, iPad, cell phones and new Android tablets are making the market more competitive.

Yeah, I agree that it was a bit small for a lot of stuff - but it was a big hit, and I find it really strange that they responded to that success by changing the product. I'm pretty sure that a lot of the success was due to it being cheap enough to be almost disposable - I've known several people take them places that they wouldn't take a laptop. Increasing the screen size and doubling the price loses that.

Not just Asus: The original mini was small and cheap, the new mini is the size (and cost) of a low end BMW - ditto the VW Golf and Beatle

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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Asus wanted. Some time ago Asus had preparations to introduce non-x86 (but ARM) based netbook. It would be cheap, use less power, you name it (iPad is also ARM based). But Microsoft and Intel twisted Asus' arm, and Asus even had to publicly apologize for mentioning "the product that is not going to be."

It still boggles me that ARM is everywhere and Intel still gets to call the shots in the market. I hope that doesn't last much longer.

MS calls the shots.

Asus can ship a linux machine, but then they will have to go and buy the copies of Windows for all their other machines from BestBuy

Re: I love netbooks but Asus is blowing it

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I think Asus had blown it already with no assistance from the iPad. They've been moving away from their core market for some time - the original 7" Eee was a hit, but now it seems to have been entirely replaced by larger, more expensive models. They've diluted their brand significantly too; originally they were quite distinct from laptops but now there's a lot of crossover. And far too many models - a local compariso…

Well, the original 7'' eeepc probably was too small for most people. I personally understood (and welcomed) their move to 9'' models. I personally find it interesting though that they haven't since released a model that offers noticeable improvements over the 901 that was introduced 2 years ago.
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