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Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by dx034 » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 1:00 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #26

Perhaps I'm missing something but why do we need a "console"? Why can't we just post these search-engine related settings in a special file on our servers? That way, we don't have to manage 10 consoles for 10 different search engines.

The Google console is quite helpful in tracking errors on your page. You can obviously do that yourself but for small projects, using Google's console is easier.

Search analytics is another topic that obviously needs a page on their side.

Overall I'm happy with Google's console, especially compared to Bing.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by lars_francke » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 1:06 PM UTC

lars_francke wrote: post #12

A link to the Search Console would have been great to have in the blog post.

As posted in another thread here the link seems to be https://search.google.com/search-console

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by walshemj » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 1:50 PM UTC

dx034 wrote: post #31

amelius wrote: post #26

Perhaps I'm missing something but why do we need a "console"? Why can't we just post these search-engine related settings in a special file on our servers? That way, we don't have to manage 10 consoles for 10 different search engines.

The Google console is quite helpful in tracking errors on your page. You can obviously do that yourself but for small projects, using Google's console is easier. Search analytics is another topic that obviously needs a page on their side. Overall I'm happy with Google's console, especially compared to Bing.

and having an insight into how google sees/crawls your site is invaluable

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by moocowtruck » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 1:58 PM UTC

dang when i saw console i was like awesome! then i went to the website :( our definitions of console are different :(

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by pkalinowski » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 1:59 PM UTC

Search console is the most powerful tool available for SEO. It's weird that it was neglected for so many years.

Nice to see they still work on it sometimes. 16 months of data is massive. Now you have to export everything every 3 months to keep historical data.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by LeonM » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 2:05 PM UTC

Bit of a weird introduction, as it does not contain a URL to the actual new console (apparently it has a different URL compared to the current 'webmaster tools').

Also, once you do find the URL, nothing seems to work (at least not for me on FF/chrome/safari). Can't see, select or add my websites to the console.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by z3t4 » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 2:13 PM UTC

dx034 wrote: post #30

rplnt wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality both approaches will result in webpages faking being fast.

Why faking? As a user, I prefer AMP pages because they load much faster. Often it's just because they don't have as many ads (and a non-amp page would be as fast then) but I can't see that from the search result.

When there is a incentive, like more clicks, and it doesn't matter if you fake it, and it's easier to fake, then people will fake it.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by ssharp » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 2:38 PM UTC

pkalinowski wrote: post #35

Search console is the most powerful tool available for SEO. It's weird that it was neglected for so many years. Nice to see they still work on it sometimes . 16 months of data is massive. Now you have to export everything every 3 months to keep historical data.

It's not available to me yet.

Besides the old 3-month limit, the other annoyance was the search terms they provided would cut in and out. So sometimes they'd give you SERP info on certain keywords and then a few months later, they'd eliminate reporting on those keywords.

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by thomas » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 3:03 PM UTC

ilovemesomeperl wrote: post #9

How does it compare, feature wise to the old one?

Wondering the same thing! These new releases tend to get a lot prettier but they almost always lose important, lesser-known features

Re: Introducing the new Google Search Console

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Post by ucaetano » Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 3:36 PM UTC

superasn wrote: post #11

Instead of making us follow these Amp non-standards, Google should give an AMP logo in Google search results and preference (the same as an amp site) if the load time of the page is under 100ms. So now you have a choice, either DIY or use Google's tech to make your site fast. This way it will create dozens of tech companies competing with AMP focused on making the web faster - the end result that Google supposedly wa…

And how would you do that? Would the browser load every single page on a Google search and then badge?

You can't test a page's load speed from Google's servers and then expect it to load for the user in the same way.

Especially because one of the key points behind AMP is the use of CDNs, especially global ones (like Google's, Microsoft's or Akamai), which greatly speed up load times while also reducing traffic for the ISPs.