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Meet “raw” water – ludicrously priced unfiltered water with random bacteria

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Post by schiffern »

pwthornton wrote: post #22

Some of us grew up on well water. It's generally fine, although you need to inspect and treat it regularly, and if one of your neighbors really messes up his well, it can affect the whole water table around him too. My digestive track always gets a little messed up when I visit my parents back home (although this could also be from the water being treated for hardness). If you were really interested in non-municipal…

>Some of us grew up on well water. It's generally fine, although you need to inspect and treat it regularly

You need to inspect it (the CDC recommends annually sending away for a water test[1]), but I'm aware of no EPA or CDC recommendation that calls for unconditionally treating the water. You treat well water only if the tests find a problem.

[1] http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/private/wells/testi...

https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/private/wells/trea...

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Post by pwthornton »

schiffern wrote: post #31
pwthornton wrote: post #22

Some of us grew up on well water. It's generally fine, although you need to inspect and treat it regularly, and if one of your neighbors really messes up his well, it can affect the whole water table around him too. My digestive track always gets a little messed up when I visit my parents back home (although this could also be from the water being treated for hardness). If you were really interested in non-municipal…

>Some of us grew up on well water. It's generally fine, although you need to inspect and treat it regularly You need to inspect it (the CDC recommends annually sending away for a water test[1]), but I'm aware of no EPA or CDC recommendation that calls for unconditionally treating the water. You treat well water only if the tests find a problem. [1] http://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/private/wells/testi... https…

This is true. It's just that you usually find some issues every few years that you at least need to throw some chlorine in the well.

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Post by jcoffland »

rhizome wrote: post #9
overcast wrote: post #4

This is the dude that started that Juicero nonsense. Now he's circumventing all of the progress we've made in the last few hundred years with making water potable. This should end well.

Someone take away this guy's license to conduct business, please. Snake oil is played out.

Unlikely, when after decades, homoeopathic "remedies" are still regularly sold at Whole Foods [1]. The FDA seems to take the stance that if it's not obviously toxic, conmen can sell anything they can get enough people to believe in.

[1] If you don't already know why homeopathic remedies are complete BS, look up "homeopathic dilution" and the meaning of the markings such as "30X" or "10C" found on these products.

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Post by cesarb »

Karliss wrote: post #27

Don't know about about other countries but where I live obtaining and selling spring and mineral water is nothing unusual. There are laws that regulate it to ensure it's safe for consumption.(link with english translation on the right side) https://likumi.lv/ta/id/278817-noteikumi-par-dabigo-mineralu... Pay attention to point 16: > 16. Any disinfection treatment by whatever means and the addition of bacteriostatic el…

In my country (Brazil) buying bottled mineral water is also common. But I don't know whether it comes directly from the spring, or is passed through a filter first. We learn from childhood that one must only drink filtered or boiled water, so I won't be surprised if there's a filter involved.

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Post by jaggederest »

pwthornton wrote: post #22

Some of us grew up on well water. It's generally fine, although you need to inspect and treat it regularly, and if one of your neighbors really messes up his well, it can affect the whole water table around him too. My digestive track always gets a little messed up when I visit my parents back home (although this could also be from the water being treated for hardness). If you were really interested in non-municipal…

> My digestive track always gets a little messed up when I visit my parents back home

FWIW, as you mention, if it's hard water this is most likely the culprit. Frequently hard water will have high sulfate levels and sulfate (as in saline laxatives) is not generally well absorbed by the human gut.

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Post by Karliss »

cesarb wrote: post #35
Karliss wrote: post #27

Don't know about about other countries but where I live obtaining and selling spring and mineral water is nothing unusual. There are laws that regulate it to ensure it's safe for consumption.(link with english translation on the right side) https://likumi.lv/ta/id/278817-noteikumi-par-dabigo-mineralu... Pay attention to point 16: > 16. Any disinfection treatment by whatever means and the addition of bacteriostatic el…

In my country (Brazil) buying bottled mineral water is also common. But I don't know whether it comes directly from the spring, or is passed through a filter first. We learn from childhood that one must only drink filtered or boiled water, so I won't be surprised if there's a filter involved.

Tap water is fine in most cities here but many people just prefer the taste. Not many buy it for drinking at home but it is very common in water coolers at offices.

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Post by monocasa »

FWIW, I absolutely love my in-law's unfiltered well water. It's ridiculously hard water (tons of calcium etc.), and tastes very sweet as a consequence. I haven't ever had water that tastes as good, and we always fill up a couple jugs to take back with us.

If I were somehow lose access to that water I'd probably try this at least once just to see if it's close.

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Post by MBCook »

jcoffland wrote: post #33
rhizome wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone take away this guy's license to conduct business, please. Snake oil is played out.

Unlikely, when after decades, homoeopathic "remedies" are still regularly sold at Whole Foods [1]. The FDA seems to take the stance that if it's not obviously toxic, conmen can sell anything they can get enough people to believe in. [1] If you don't already know why homeopathic remedies are complete BS, look up "homeopathic dilution" and the meaning of the markings such as "30X" or "10C" found on these products.

https://twitter.com/BigZaphod/status/948215762438803457

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Post by jjeaff »

deno wrote: post #14

It’s easy to dismiss the claim that fluoride is a mind control drug, if taken literally. When I’ve probed just a little the actual claim I’ve heard is that it somehow affects personality, making for easier to control masses. I don’t know whether that’s true but at least that’s a claim that can be falsified. The other thing is: “Tap water? You’re drinking toilet water with birth control drugs in them,” There’s plenty…

Many wells have higher fluoride content than municipal supplies. So if we are wanting to create a complacent society, would have been better to leave people on well water.
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