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LastPass’ Authenticator app is not secure

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I can’t figure out why LastPass is still so popular. Ease of use since it’s completely browser based? They were early to market? I don’t get it. So many better designed, more secure options out there. KeePass, Bitwarden, or 1Password to name a few.

For me ease-of-use is a killer feature. Do any of the alternatives you suggested sync automatically between devices? Do they auto-fill?

iCloud Keychain does, and it’s free, but obviously it’s limited to Macs and iOS devices.

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I can’t figure out why LastPass is still so popular. Ease of use since it’s completely browser based? They were early to market? I don’t get it. So many better designed, more secure options out there. KeePass, Bitwarden, or 1Password to name a few.

1Password more secure? Surely you're joking.

What makes you say that?

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I can’t figure out why LastPass is still so popular. Ease of use since it’s completely browser based? They were early to market? I don’t get it. So many better designed, more secure options out there. KeePass, Bitwarden, or 1Password to name a few.

1Password more secure? Surely you're joking.

Seems folks forget just how poor of a job they were doing only a year ago.

SIK-2016-038: Subdomain Password Leakage in 1Password Internal Browser SIK-2016-039: Https downgrade to http URL by default in 1Password Internal Browser SIK-2016-040: Titles and URLs Not Encrypted in 1Password Database SIK-2016-041: Read Private Data From App Folder in 1Password Manager SIK-2016-042: Privacy Issue, Information Leaked to Vendor 1Password Manager

The tradition with this company is not a serious (as in mission-critical serious) approach to security and the amount of FUD that they spread anytime they take real criticism from the community speaks volumes. They had more vulnerabilities disclosed last year than any of their competitors.

Just because you like it doesn't mean that it's secure software.

Re: LastPass’ Authenticator app is not secure

#34
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The code, tech, and mindset behind LastPass is a joke. They started just after the “dark ages” of security but don’t seem to have upgraded their mental model of security since. I’ll share with you the moment I discovered something that made me cancel my schedule for the day, research alternatives, write a LastPass to 1Password converter [0], and cancel my LastPass account and subscription. Are you ready? You log in t…

>You log in to their support forums and online community with the same password you decrypt your vault with. what's the issue with that? maybe they have some SSO system

They issue is that your vault key must never be available to their system, otherwise when they get hacked with the most trivial XSS now your vault is pwned. Password vaults are a hugely valuable target, worth potentially thousands of dollars on the black market, you absolutely should not be using a service that has the ability or can acquire the ability to decrypt your vault. You're better off with a plaintext file in a nondescript location on your hard drive.

Re: LastPass’ Authenticator app is not secure

#35

The code, tech, and mindset behind LastPass is a joke. They started just after the “dark ages” of security but don’t seem to have upgraded their mental model of security since. I’ll share with you the moment I discovered something that made me cancel my schedule for the day, research alternatives, write a LastPass to 1Password converter [0], and cancel my LastPass account and subscription. Are you ready? You log in t…

Couple of days ago they sent an newsletter email to all their subscribers telling something about "enterprise accounts". Anyway, they sent that to everyone, when obviously they meant to send to their enterprise customers.

In that moment I realised that I still had an active subscription with them and cancelled promptly.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You log in to their support forums and online community with the same password you decrypt your vault with. what's the issue with that? maybe they have some SSO system

It means if someone hacks into their forums and gets credentials then all your passwords are open to them.

Why?

1.) LastPass login page hashes MasterPassword on the login page to produce a hash

2.) Hash is sent to the forums, and is checked against the same hash as the vault system

3.) Hash is confirmed, and you're logged in.

1.) Later hash is grabbed by an attacker.

2.) Attacker sends the hash to get the encrypted vault

3.) Attacker gets the encrypted vault

4.) Attacker is sad, because they don't have the MasterPassword, and thus have no access to all your passwords

Note that I'm not saying that they are awesome, and/or are doing the above. But it's not immediately obvious that a MasterPassword can't hash a forum login and a vault request at the same time. I mean, that's literally what the "MasterPassword never leaves the client" is supposed to mean.

[0] - https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=6926

Re: LastPass’ Authenticator app is not secure

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post #3

I can’t figure out why LastPass is still so popular. Ease of use since it’s completely browser based? They were early to market? I don’t get it. So many better designed, more secure options out there. KeePass, Bitwarden, or 1Password to name a few.

For me ease-of-use is a killer feature. Do any of the alternatives you suggested sync automatically between devices? Do they auto-fill?

I’ve used all of the alternatives and each has pros and cons. I’ve settled on Bitwarden at the moment but may end up moving back to KeePass (again) to gain control of my data. I’ve had to refer to KeePass backups months down the road when I accidentally deleted or didn’t store a password. Feels good to have that control.

The mobile experience lacks polish on iOS with KeePass but the control and security might end up winning out for me.

I ditched 1Password because their Windows app is a catastrophe and their forcing users off to their sync service was really badly handled.

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I can’t figure out why LastPass is still so popular. Ease of use since it’s completely browser based? They were early to market? I don’t get it. So many better designed, more secure options out there. KeePass, Bitwarden, or 1Password to name a few.

The ability to fill password in Android app. The last time I checked there's no competitors doing this. I'm hoping the Autofill API in Android Oreo can bring more competition.

keepassdroid lets you do that via copying data to the clipboard. Not a great solution, but it works

Re: LastPass’ Authenticator app is not secure

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The code, tech, and mindset behind LastPass is a joke. They started just after the “dark ages” of security but don’t seem to have upgraded their mental model of security since. I’ll share with you the moment I discovered something that made me cancel my schedule for the day, research alternatives, write a LastPass to 1Password converter [0], and cancel my LastPass account and subscription. Are you ready? You log in t…

My biggest gripe/concern with LastPass Enterprise (we use it) is that sharing/access control _never_ works properly.

Every time we bring someone on and try to share folders or credentials with them, we end up needing a multi-hour support ticket to get everything resolved correctly.

This shouldn't happen. It raises big alarms for me.

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