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Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

#31
I'd be interested in finding out what happens when I press the thumbs down/up icon on Netflix, because the match ratings that are displayed to me seem to have nothing to do with either my ratings or with my watching history.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

#32

Nothing. So you go to your nearest torrent aggregator and are streaming it down in 3 minutes.

I read the word "nothing" and I thought to mysel: now THIS will turn interesting!!! (thinking that this will point to removal of Net Neutrality and the risks and conflicts it will bring to online services once ISPs turn aggro to both content producers/distributors and end-customers. Buuuuuuuuut no.. it was a silly short-lived comment about piracy (not even an educating one)

Actually it was a comment questioning why they don't use torrents to provide their services. And also pointing out that p2p based solutions somehow outperform theirs in many cases (for me, not US based so the net neutrality stuff is maybe not relevant). Anyway sorry I was too silly and didn't clarify these points.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read the word "nothing" and I thought to mysel: now THIS will turn interesting!!! (thinking that this will point to removal of Net Neutrality and the risks and conflicts it will bring to online services once ISPs turn aggro to both content producers/distributors and end-customers. Buuuuuuuuut no.. it was a silly short-lived comment about piracy (not even an educating one)

Actually it was a comment questioning why they don't use torrents to provide their services. And also pointing out that p2p based solutions somehow outperform theirs in many cases (for me, not US based so the net neutrality stuff is maybe not relevant). Anyway sorry I was too silly and didn't clarify these points.

P2P has traditionally not worked out well for companies.

Even recently Microsoft tried it for updates, and people were quite angry.

I honestly don't see a situation where someone would prefer to use their own bandwidth for a paid service rather than having a server do the heavy lifting. Either as the provider, or the consumer.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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How much money do those top 5 torrent trackers generate for the content creators? How much money do the "cartels" generate for the content creators? I believe the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people involved in the production of the thousands of TV shows and movies earned much more money from those "cartels" than those torrent trackers

The cartel is directly infringing on my freedom, with the use of the governments guns. Many hundreds of thousands(if not millions or billions) of people are under compensated for the work they do, work which is much more valuable. Make a list of every volunteer open source developer, 12 year old working in a Bangladeshi sweatshop and stay at home mom. If you want to blame anything, blame capitalism. Funny how the rea…

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Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually it was a comment questioning why they don't use torrents to provide their services. And also pointing out that p2p based solutions somehow outperform theirs in many cases (for me, not US based so the net neutrality stuff is maybe not relevant). Anyway sorry I was too silly and didn't clarify these points.

P2P has traditionally not worked out well for companies. Even recently Microsoft tried it for updates, and people were quite angry. I honestly don't see a situation where someone would prefer to use their own bandwidth for a paid service rather than having a server do the heavy lifting. Either as the provider, or the consumer.

This is true, and I wonder if someone has done an analysis of the many failures. It is impressive that something which works so well in the wild provides so little benefit when tamed.

Maybe Netflix or a streaming service could pay for bytes uploaded. Abuse would be difficult to mitigate but in principle this would encourage peers to provide the company's service to the network.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Many of the things Netflix does here google does too and has been doing for a long time like GGC (Google Global Cache) for free at ISP NOC or datacenters - their GGC nodes are many orders of magnitude time is distribution. 90% of the Google traffic through these devices are youtube videos. They mention it in the article like Netflix pioneered this idea with open-connect. If anything it's harder to get OC devices from…

That sounds a bit like a violation of net neutrality avant la lettre.

There is a whole world outside the United States.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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> I find it really hard to believe that paying for content is unethical. Your money isn't going to the people who created the content. It is going to cartels that have no interests in common with you, and have massive lobbying power in order to force you to download malware and restrict the access of information from you.

Of course money goes to the creators. I have an actor friend who was in a 'Netflix Original'. He got paid for it. Sure, others are making profits on it but, again, that's not surprising. That's how our society works. I wasn't 'lobbied' or forced to install 'malware'. I'm aware of what's going on (I too have heard of R.M.S.!) and I made a conscious decision to subscribe to such services.

> It is going to cartels that have no interests in common with you

To elaborate - we absolutely have something in common. These 'cartels' (businesses) don't give a flying fuck about DRM, they just want to be able to sell things. Often, they make good things that I want to buy. Good set of interests to have in common.

Re: Netflix: What Happens When You Press Play?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much money do those top 5 torrent trackers generate for the content creators? How much money do the "cartels" generate for the content creators? I believe the tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people involved in the production of the thousands of TV shows and movies earned much more money from those "cartels" than those torrent trackers

The cartel is directly infringing on my freedom, with the use of the governments guns. Many hundreds of thousands(if not millions or billions) of people are under compensated for the work they do, work which is much more valuable. Make a list of every volunteer open source developer, 12 year old working in a Bangladeshi sweatshop and stay at home mom. If you want to blame anything, blame capitalism. Funny how the rea…

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