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Re: Buy, sell, send and receive Bitcoin Cash on Coinbase

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Real talk though. Why does it matter? No skin off my back.

Are you looking for an explanation for existence of insider trading laws?

Is this actually insider trading? Why? According to SEC.gov:

> Illegal insider trading refers generally to buying or selling a security, in breach of a fiduciary duty or other relationship of trust and confidence, while in possession of material, nonpublic information about the security

Bitcoin Cash is not a stock or a security, so it's questionable whether this concept even applies. But even if you considered it to be a security, then how is Coinbase's decision to list Bitcoin Cash on their exchange somehow in breach of "a fiduciary duty or other reltionship of trust and confidence"?

Perhaps there is some other SEC regulation they might be violating about how the operators of exchanges can trade on their own exchange, such as front running, but it doesn't seem like that would have anything to do with insider trading.

I agree that it's possible that Coinbase's decision to begin trading this asset could influence its value, but that doesn't make the action insider trading. It's fine to take actions while expecting to influence the value of an asset - see for example the massive short position that Ackman took against Herbalife. His public media campaign to discredit the company was expected (calculated) to drive down the value of their stock, but is the fact that he took out short sales in advance of that action "insider trading"? No.

Re: Buy, sell, send and receive Bitcoin Cash on Coinbase

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post #5

I wonder how much money Coinbase employees, friends and family made by insider trading on this announcement. Gotta love unregulated markets!

Exactly the first thought that came to my mind. BCH up 30%. I wonder how many Coinbase employees bought BCH throughout this past month. Also. it's easily predictable that introducing a new currency will temporarily affect the other currencies negatively. Very gray area.

as pointed out by another commenter[1], this move was publicly announced

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15966191

Re: Buy, sell, send and receive Bitcoin Cash on Coinbase

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Real talk though. Why does it matter? No skin off my back.

Are you looking for an explanation for existence of insider trading laws?

Specifically with regards to this situation. Who is harmed?

Re: Buy, sell, send and receive Bitcoin Cash on Coinbase

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That's actually consistent with other currencies though. You can inside trade on forex markets.

Also commodities if I remember correctly, which are regulated as well. Also there's a big theoretical and serious discussion in financial economics on why insider trading is even net bad. In some ways aren't stock analysts "insiders" with respect to your average SV engineer investing, and isn't an SV engineer who is able to fully understand a balance sheet an "insider" with respect to gambling grandma in Iowa?

My understanding is that "knowledgeable outsiders", in executing trades, effectively make accessible whatever esoteric-but-technically-public information they had to the market, and so help prices adjust toward their correct value.

Knowledgeable insiders, on the other hand, can execute "hidden" trades that aren't revealed to the public market—and so don't provide information to the market. This distorts the market, moving the value of the instrument away from its true price.

Re: Buy, sell, send and receive Bitcoin Cash on Coinbase

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Why is anyone surprised by this? Coinbase sent an email out months ago saying they'd do this by Jan 1, 2018. Dear Coinbase customer, ... We are planning to have support for bitcoin cash by January 1, 2018, assuming no additional risks emerge during that time. ... Thank you, Coinbase Team Am I crazy? Edit: let me answer those who think I am crazy. BTC literally tripled overnight a few weeks ago when there was "specula…

From the time this was posted to your comment, Bitcoin Cash went up 300%.

Re: Buy, sell, send and receive Bitcoin Cash on Coinbase

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post #5

I wonder how much money Coinbase employees, friends and family made by insider trading on this announcement. Gotta love unregulated markets!

I think it would be pretty cool to see Coinbase employees go to prison for insider trading. Not out of any sort of vengeance, I just think it would be a huge paradigm shift in cryptoland. Continuing saga between regulation and pure greed/manipulation of cryptos. I assume most country's (especially the US's) federal regulations are way too slow to verify this is in fact true illegal insider trading though?

Re: Buy, sell, send and receive Bitcoin Cash on Coinbase

#39
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you looking for an explanation for existence of insider trading laws?

Specifically with regards to this situation. Who is harmed?

Market participants who sold BCH earlier today before the announcement to insiders who bought knowing that the price was sure to rise after this announcement?
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