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Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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The current NN repeal is working out exactly the way Pai said it would. As he cited, the problem is lack of competition. The solution is competition. All the discussion happening today is about how to start an ISP to prevent cable monopolies abusing their position.

The repeal is working exactly the way Pai said it would. It is encouraging new ISP entrants. Startup ISPs are the answer. NN supporters still don't realize they've been on the wrong side the entire time.

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/11/fcc-will-also-or... (tl;dr: fcc-will-also-order-states-to-scrap-plans-for-their-own-net-neutrality-laws/ )

Given that the FCC only recently lost a court case about its authority to preempt state laws banning muni broadband, how would this situation be any different?

Because this one would serve the interests of the rich and well connected?

I tend to agree that the FCC probably won't be able to ban states from enacting their own form of net neutrality, but I've seen the courts side with business interests with weak arguments more times than I'd like.

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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post #31

The current NN repeal is working out exactly the way Pai said it would. As he cited, the problem is lack of competition. The solution is competition. All the discussion happening today is about how to start an ISP to prevent cable monopolies abusing their position. The repeal is working exactly the way Pai said it would. It is encouraging new ISP entrants. Startup ISPs are the answer. NN supporters still don't realiz…

In what way did Net Neutrality prevent people from starting an ISP? Please be specific.

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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Haven't read TFA but I'm going to say the internet most definitely falls under 'interstate commerce' so California isn't able to regulate it.

You're exactly right and I have no idea why you've been downvoted.

Meh, people like to downvote instead of coming up with a rational counter-argument. In another thread I got downvoted multiple times for merely stating a fact.

I just see it as opportunity to hone my subtle trolling skills.

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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The same FCC that got rid of the net neutrality rules has the ability to make a rule that preempts any state level neutrality rules.

It's either amusing or sad that the party that ran on "states rights" in 2000 is now exercising whatever power it can to limit states' authority.

Where is libertarianism?

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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The same FCC that got rid of the net neutrality rules has the ability to make a rule that preempts any state level neutrality rules.

It's either amusing or sad that the party that ran on "states rights" in 2000 is now exercising whatever power it can to limit states' authority. Where is libertarianism?

> Where is libertarianism?

Largely still arguing about what it means to be a libertarian.

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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post #31

The current NN repeal is working out exactly the way Pai said it would. As he cited, the problem is lack of competition. The solution is competition. All the discussion happening today is about how to start an ISP to prevent cable monopolies abusing their position. The repeal is working exactly the way Pai said it would. It is encouraging new ISP entrants. Startup ISPs are the answer. NN supporters still don't realiz…

Do you have any examples? Or any reason to believe that the startup ISPs will bother with anyone outside of a major metro area?

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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post #31

The current NN repeal is working out exactly the way Pai said it would. As he cited, the problem is lack of competition. The solution is competition. All the discussion happening today is about how to start an ISP to prevent cable monopolies abusing their position. The repeal is working exactly the way Pai said it would. It is encouraging new ISP entrants. Startup ISPs are the answer. NN supporters still don't realiz…

In what way did Net Neutrality prevent people from starting an ISP? Please be specific.

I would suggest you read what Mr Pai said. He went into this subject.

https://www.recode.net/2017/12/14/16777356/full-transcript-a...

Small internet services were being shut out due to the Title II regulations.

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way did Net Neutrality prevent people from starting an ISP? Please be specific.

I would suggest you read what Mr Pai said. He went into this subject. https://www.recode.net/2017/12/14/16777356/full-transcript-a... Small internet services were being shut out due to the Title II regulations.

Right, because what Pai has to say on the subject is going to be neutral, factual, balanced, well-informed, and honestly informative...

Re: Now that the FCC has repealed net neutrality, let’s adopt it in California

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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Amendment_to_the_United_... If it's true for handguns, it's true for the Internet. I say Californians might have a shot at this (as would any other state)

The city/state/D.C handgun bans got overturned by the Supreme Court not too long ago on constitutional grounds.
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