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Re: GM puts an e-commerce marketplace in the dashboard

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Ideally people wouldn't feel the need to use their phone while driving at all I understand what you’re saying, and agree, but I just want to play some tunes. On our Nissan Leaf, it takes seven taps on the screen to get BT to connect to my phone, because my phone isn’t the “default”. Seven, and plenty of opportunity to make a wrong choice along the way. And I have to do this every time the car restarts, and it can onl…

I drove a Leaf for a while, and while I do agree the center console had its share of UX issues, I think you are being a bit too demanding. For the default paired phone, the Leaf will re-connect with zero taps, just do it automatically. So you're probably in a shared car--yay, single electric car households are the future--and since you say you only want music, the solution is to leave a USB cable in the car. I was in…

I think you are being a bit too demanding.

Had I not previously written code that handles this exact scenario, I might agree. Hell, my iPhone does this exact thing to determine whether or not I'm driving. "Are we driving? I dunno, let's go iterate through all of the automotive BT IDs that I know about. Whoop, I see the Leaf's BT, I guess we're driving." I see no reason that the Leaf can't go, "hmm, I don't see the wife's phone. But I do see mikestew's phone, and that's in my list of known devices. I'll throw a prompt asking, or maybe that's too intrusive so I'll put a one-touch button on the screen to connect. But what I absolutely, positively won't do is make the driver push seven goddamned buttons to connect to a device I already know about."

I know this can be done because when I did work for a major athletic shoe maker, they put incredibly low-powered and incredibly dumb BT pucks in their shoes. In an amazing show of optimism, what if the customer bought two pairs of these over-priced shoes? And the implementation I wrote eight years ago did not involve seven taps. (IIRC, it was along the lines of "I don't see your usual basketball shoes, but I see the running shoes. Wanna use those?")

That's why this annoys me more than it should.

Do other cars/manufacturers handle multiple paired phones better?

The single-DIN, $89 head unit in our old VW does this better. You push a single button. (The downside is that it only pairs with two phones and an audio device.) It connects to the last thing it saw by default. The $700 Pioneer (would have to look up the model #) that replaced our Scion OEM unit connects to the last device it saw, and if that doesn't do it, three taps to connect (Settings/BT Connect/Device). Oh, that reminds me of another annoyance with the Leaf: one of those seven button taps is to decide between "Hands-free" or "audio device". Well, how the fuck should I know? No other thing I own asks this question. Because the Pioneer and the skeezy $89 Kenwood both say, "meh, don't worry about it, I'll load the appropriate profile depending on what you want to do. I mean, hell, it's pretty stupid to put a CPU in here if I can't even figure out that simple task, amirite? LOL!"

Re: GM puts an e-commerce marketplace in the dashboard

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I imagine quite a few GM customers use CarPlay or Android Connect. This sounds like a move designed to ensure that even more use them. If there's anything in it, I fully expect Apple and Google to develop something better for their platform that is better - would GM disable it?

Re: GM puts an e-commerce marketplace in the dashboard

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How'd you turn this on? It doesn't happen on my mother's phone and she fiddles with it when driving.

Go to Settings, focus the search text box at the top of the screen. Enter “driving”, it should show “DND while driving”. Turn that on. Not much of a deterrent, because there's a "I'm not driving button" when you try and use your phone. That's understandable, since I doubt "Fuck everybody else, I've got toots to post!" would fit in the modal, and localization would be difficult. I also thought it was the default, but…

I use the "I'm not driving" button because notifications come when I'm on the bus and train.

Re: GM puts an e-commerce marketplace in the dashboard

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Not only will it be a disastrously bad shopping experience, it will cause death and carnage. This is exactly the kind of ridiculously crazy stuff they come up with with board rooms when the sycophants don't have enough balls to tell their leaders they are nuts. It's good to be ambitious, this is just stupid. Now - if they could make it so you could get your car filled up and 'pay with your car' i.e. no credit cards,…

That's fixed already: it's called an electric car. Get in your car in the morning and it is charged up and pre-warmed. Drive sportily but quietly and without pollution to your destination. If it's far away, plug in while eating and/or shopping. No need to stop anywhere with carcinogenic fumes and dirty pumps to pay for conflict-gasoline.

It's not remotely fixed yet, the amount of electricity needed + infrastructure is massive + the electricity we generate is not exactly clean.

And once this is common - you will not be 'shopping' - you will be 'working'.

I worked for BlackBerry and watched the world transform to 'off time is now on time'.

Basically - 'after hours' became accessible to managers - now commute times will be as well.

It will be good for skilled labour/trades. They will still get paid by the hour ... while white collar workers will now be putting in an extra 50 mins a day on average, no extra comp :)

Re: GM puts an e-commerce marketplace in the dashboard

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Go to Settings, focus the search text box at the top of the screen. Enter “driving”, it should show “DND while driving”. Turn that on. Not much of a deterrent, because there's a "I'm not driving button" when you try and use your phone. That's understandable, since I doubt "Fuck everybody else, I've got toots to post!" would fit in the modal, and localization would be difficult. I also thought it was the default, but…

I use the "I'm not driving" button because notifications come when I'm on the bus and train.

Interesting, I guess seeing a familiar BT ID is just one of the pieces of sensor data it looks at. I know it checks if you’re moving (I get notifications in my garage after the car is started but not moving), I just didn’t know it would rely solely on that.

Re: GM puts an e-commerce marketplace in the dashboard

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That's fixed already: it's called an electric car. Get in your car in the morning and it is charged up and pre-warmed. Drive sportily but quietly and without pollution to your destination. If it's far away, plug in while eating and/or shopping. No need to stop anywhere with carcinogenic fumes and dirty pumps to pay for conflict-gasoline.

It's not remotely fixed yet, the amount of electricity needed + infrastructure is massive + the electricity we generate is not exactly clean. And once this is common - you will not be 'shopping' - you will be 'working'. I worked for BlackBerry and watched the world transform to 'off time is now on time'. Basically - 'after hours' became accessible to managers - now commute times will be as well. It will be good for s…

I'm not sure which ax you need to grind here, but electric cars surely solve the pump-gas-in-the-cold-problem you brought up (not to mention a whole lot of other gasoline-related problems).
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