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Installed the new firefox, had 1 tab running for a few days which had allocated more than 10gb of virtual memory. I had high hopes but im sticking with chrome.
Forgive my ignorance, but does having X amount of virtual memory allocated necessarily correspond to physical memory (and storage for that matter?)
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This sounds vaguely like what I've been experiencing on recent Chrome versions. On Windows I've had Chrome randomly hang... initially on the network, then after a few seconds even the UI freezes. When that happens, if I launch Firefox and try to access the network, it hangs too. But programs that don't try to access the network don't hang. Then after maybe (very roughly) 30 seconds, it all goes back to normal. No ide…
I notice chrome having these issues if I'm running out of memory or if another program is trying to read from the hard drive at the same time.
Like I was suggesting early -- my habits haven't changed. It's started doing this quite recently. It wasn't like this a few weeks ago.
> the breadth of the web platform is staggering. It grew organically over almost three decades, has no clear limits in scope, and has lots of tricky observables that thwart attempts to simplify. It would be great to create the html/css/javascript stack from scratch, or at least make a non-backwards-compatible version that is simpler and can perform better. HTML5 showed us that can work.
> Stylo was the culmination of a near-decade of R&D, a multiple-moonshot effort to build a better browser by building a better language. This is the most impressive, and useful aspect of all the recent work in Firefox. Rust is an amazing language. It really brings something new to the table with its borrow checker. The fact that rust was created as part of a greater effort to work on a web browser is amazing.
To put it another way, I find it hard to justify developing Rust just for a web browser. But if you consider it from the perspective of a foundation developing tools for the developer community as a whole, it makes much more sense.
> the breadth of the web platform is staggering. It grew organically over almost three decades, has no clear limits in scope, and has lots of tricky observables that thwart attempts to simplify. It would be great to create the html/css/javascript stack from scratch, or at least make a non-backwards-compatible version that is simpler and can perform better. HTML5 showed us that can work.
The whole Mozilla strategy of corroding Firefox piece by piece is actually very professional. Big backwards-incompatible transitions in technology almost always fail.
> Stylo was the culmination of a near-decade of R&D, a multiple-moonshot effort to build a better browser by building a better language. This is the most impressive, and useful aspect of all the recent work in Firefox. Rust is an amazing language. It really brings something new to the table with its borrow checker. The fact that rust was created as part of a greater effort to work on a web browser is amazing.
What I wonder, and I do not mean this in negative way, is whether this would have happened in a more commercially oriented organisation. Mozilla remains a foundation, and I consider Rust a fruit of their labour in itself. To put it another way, I find it hard to justify developing Rust just for a web browser. But if you consider it from the perspective of a foundation developing tools for the developer community as a…
Obviously, commercial organisations have a long track record of developing and supporting programming languages.
"browsers must maintain backwards-compatibility with every single webpage ever written" PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
This was a pretty smart move by the Rust team, and this gave them a rock solid platform to go cross-platform. In words of Newton, "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants". Kudos team Rust, and let's hope they eat C++'s lunch soon.
Edit: I don't intend for this to sound like I'm complaining, just interested.
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What I wonder, and I do not mean this in negative way, is whether this would have happened in a more commercially oriented organisation. Mozilla remains a foundation, and I consider Rust a fruit of their labour in itself. To put it another way, I find it hard to justify developing Rust just for a web browser. But if you consider it from the perspective of a foundation developing tools for the developer community as a…
Is there anything specific about Rust that you don’t think a commercial organisation would do? Obviously, commercial organisations have a long track record of developing and supporting programming languages.
Enterprises tend to invest in <5 year projects, I've noted, and 5 years is a hell of a long time for an extended investment.