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Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by andoma »

melling wrote: post #12
killnine wrote: post #6

Really gave atom a hard try. Back to notepad after a few months. The add-ons are the only advantage, but are grossly overshadowed by the resource consumption this behemoth requires.

Yeah, someone complains about the resource usage in every Atom post. I feel likes it's a rehash of emacs vs vi debate from 30 years ago. Emacs needed many megabytes more than vi so people wouldn't use it. As time goes on the resource usage becomes less of a problem. My 4 year old laptop has 16GB of RAM and I don't really worry about it. I'll get 32GB or 64GB in my next computer. I never liked quibbling over memory. M…

Personally I don't mind RAM usage that much. I'm more concerned about excessive CPU usage resulting in unnecessary battery drain on my laptop or annoying fan-spinning.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by nulagrithom »

melling wrote: post #12
killnine wrote: post #6

Really gave atom a hard try. Back to notepad after a few months. The add-ons are the only advantage, but are grossly overshadowed by the resource consumption this behemoth requires.

Yeah, someone complains about the resource usage in every Atom post. I feel likes it's a rehash of emacs vs vi debate from 30 years ago. Emacs needed many megabytes more than vi so people wouldn't use it. As time goes on the resource usage becomes less of a problem. My 4 year old laptop has 16GB of RAM and I don't really worry about it. I'll get 32GB or 64GB in my next computer. I never liked quibbling over memory. M…

> As time goes on the resource usage becomes less of a problem.

Yet vim is still more popular today by a wide margin. :)

It's not just about memory usage; it's about lag. Atom felt laggy to me. I also value my time, and I can't stand waiting for my editor.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by llimllib »

liamdanielduffy wrote: post #29

“participants all keep their own custom key bindings, packages, and themes.” what happens when two different people editing the same document have two different settings for # spaces per tab character? whose takes precedence? (Or would there be a possibility of inconsistent spacing depending on who is adding a tab?)

I would guess that tab -> spaces happens locally, and then the spaces are what's sent over the wire. So it would be whoever inserted the tab. (What other possibility could there be?)

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by have_faith »

liamdanielduffy wrote: post #29

“participants all keep their own custom key bindings, packages, and themes.” what happens when two different people editing the same document have two different settings for # spaces per tab character? whose takes precedence? (Or would there be a possibility of inconsistent spacing depending on who is adding a tab?)

Defaulting to whatever the document is currently using would be sane?

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by bad_user »

JPKab wrote: post #8
AriaMinaei wrote: post #2

Is it only a coincidence that real-time collaboration is being announced both for Atom and VS Code ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15704376 ) at the same time?

The fact that VS Code's version isn't ready yet, and Atom's is makes me think that Microsoft wanted to respond to Atom's announcement. But I honestly have no idea if that's the case. Just pure speculation. Edit: Atom's announcement was yesterday. Microsoft's was today. That further fuels my speculative hunch. :)

Microsoft is not known for finesse in their marketing tactics.

Just had a déjà vu with Microsoft's NetPC, announced just after Sun Microsystem's Network Computers.

That said, I do like VS Code very much. Gave Atom a try, but it felt sluggish and its add-ons were very fragile.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by discreditable »

anoother wrote: post #27
dingo_bat wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My 4 year old laptop has 16GB of RAM Even now the highest end laptops have same 16GB RAM. Sad state of affairs :(

For certain definitions of 'high-end', maybe. You've been able to configure workstation-class laptops with 64 gb for a few years now. And most mid- high-end laptops will happily accept 32GB, again going back a few years. (Broadwell removed the density limitation that made 16GB DIMMs a no-go; anything that takes DDR4 should support 16GB SODIMMs, excepting the very low end Atom, Celeron etc.)

Why am I expected to have a workstation-class laptop to run my text editor?

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by have_faith »

nulagrithom wrote: post #32
melling wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, someone complains about the resource usage in every Atom post. I feel likes it's a rehash of emacs vs vi debate from 30 years ago. Emacs needed many megabytes more than vi so people wouldn't use it. As time goes on the resource usage becomes less of a problem. My 4 year old laptop has 16GB of RAM and I don't really worry about it. I'll get 32GB or 64GB in my next computer. I never liked quibbling over memory. M…

> As time goes on the resource usage becomes less of a problem. Yet vim is still more popular today by a wide margin. :) It's not just about memory usage; it's about lag. Atom felt laggy to me. I also value my time, and I can't stand waiting for my editor.

It was the lag (and at the time, struggling to open "large" files) that stopped me giving it more than a cursory check a year or so ago. No idea if it's worth looking into again? Would be hard to beat sublimes snappiness doing almost any task.

Re: Code together in real time with Teletype for Atom

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Post by alexozer »

jitl wrote: post #11

See also Floobits, which is a fully-realized, production ready service that allows collaborative real-time editing of your editors entire workspace. Floobits has plugins for all major editors, including Vim and IntelliJ, as well as Google Hangouts. https://floobits.com/ Disclosure: I used Floobits a few times and think it’s awesome 10/10

Tested with neovim, really does not work (you must edit greater than 40 lines away from each other or so, or else the editor bugs out).
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