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A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

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Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For such a "well-known fact", I haven't heard of it. (I suppose it could be true in the sense that some nonzero number of ISIS members were formerly part of local militaries.) Where did you hear it, Mr. Throwaway-account created just 9 minutes ago?

>Where did you hear it, Mr. Throwaway-account created just 9 minutes ago? Seeing so many downvotes for an honest opinion seems like it was wise desicion.

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Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#32

Basically, either you let ISIS escape, or you completely flatten the city to get rid of them. I mean considering the way Raqqa looks now, I'm not sure it was effective in preventing much destruction, but if you have an opportunity to save a large city, you try to.

How about arrest and question them?

Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#34
post #27

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Perhaps you're forgetting.. there were coalition war planes guiding them to safety. Which means SDF won't be able to tinker with the arrangements even if they wanted to.

Those coalition planes should be bombing them and not guiding them to safety lol I don`t get this thread. Majority of people think that this was totally ok. I guess until next 9/11, or London, or Paris or whatever happen (hope not) and then it is again ok to bomb the country half randomly and drone strike wherever the current administration wants.

I don't get this thread either. Why the bloodlust?

Isn't it better for 100 guilty people to walk free than for 1 innocent person to be harmed? If not, when did that stop being the case?

Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#35
post #23

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But the potential price is more suicide attacks in the streets of Paris or London. Not a concern of the SDF of course (and who could blame them?), but what outcome is more desirable from a western point of view is less obvious to me.

Then maybe the west should actually check who crosses their borders instead of just waving anyone through if they come from a boat And increase their intelligence resources and not be afraid to act on radical preachers

What makes you think the West doesn't check who crosses the borders? What do you think the dozens of thousands of people stuck in detaining centers all over Greece and Italy are waiting for?

Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#36
post #8
post #4

It is a well known fact that ISIS was instructed by SAS and American special forces. They have also been reported that ISIS commanders where airlifted by American helicopters. So much about fighting terrorism. United States along with Britain and other European nations have been become the epiphany of hypocrisy( remember the bombing of Libya where British and French were giving a hand to the Americans?). These facts…

Can you please give sources, how do you know that they are instructed by SAS ? This is very common theory with no backing that I know.

this video can give you few hints. i have struggled to find it, seems like rt videos are penalized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mliCy4GN2w

here is text version

http://www.vrenergie.com/index.php/fuel-qxxi-centuryq/2329-b...

Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#37
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For such a "well-known fact", I haven't heard of it. (I suppose it could be true in the sense that some nonzero number of ISIS members were formerly part of local militaries.) Where did you hear it, Mr. Throwaway-account created just 9 minutes ago?

>Where did you hear it, Mr. Throwaway-account created just 9 minutes ago? Seeing so many downvotes for an honest opinion seems like it was wise desicion.

Those were not just opinions, those were also unsupported factual claims.

Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#38
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those coalition planes should be bombing them and not guiding them to safety lol I don`t get this thread. Majority of people think that this was totally ok. I guess until next 9/11, or London, or Paris or whatever happen (hope not) and then it is again ok to bomb the country half randomly and drone strike wherever the current administration wants.

I don't get this thread either. Why the bloodlust? Isn't it better for 100 guilty people to walk free than for 1 innocent person to be harmed? If not, when did that stop being the case?

I think people are more concerned about future harm these guys will cause than punishing past behavior. If out of this 100 guys 5 end up doing some suicide attacks, killing 10 people each, yeah it does rationally makes sense to go for the preventing strikes (all made up numbers).

It's the old debate between utilitarianism vs deontology.

Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#39
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those coalition planes should be bombing them and not guiding them to safety lol I don`t get this thread. Majority of people think that this was totally ok. I guess until next 9/11, or London, or Paris or whatever happen (hope not) and then it is again ok to bomb the country half randomly and drone strike wherever the current administration wants.

I don't get this thread either. Why the bloodlust? Isn't it better for 100 guilty people to walk free than for 1 innocent person to be harmed? If not, when did that stop being the case?

This would largely depend on whether any of the guilty are likely to harm others again when freed, wouldn't it?

Re: A deal that let hundreds of IS fighters and their families escape from Raqqa

#40

It was so nice of United States to make sure none of ISIS fighters were harmed. It is just unbelievable. They make deals with terrorists.

The only people who don't make deals with terrorists are in the movies. All the world's governments make deals with terrorists.
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