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Re: Firefox Quantum

#31

Post by mtgx »

Firefox 57 will also allow users to enable Always-on Tracking Protection by default (you could sort of do it before, too, but you had to enable the Private Mode by default, which also deletes cookies and other stuff).

This should make it easier for people to enable. It's what Do Not Track should have been all along. We asked advertisers nicely to stop tracking us with DNT, and they didn't care. Now we're going to just block their trackers and there's nothing they can do about it (I'm talking about more mainstream users in general. Of course some of us have already been using ublock origin or similar extensions).

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/firefox-57-to...

Re: Firefox Quantum

#32

Post by suprfnk »

imple wrote: post #7
marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

This is a bit misleading. When you maximize Chrome's window the space above the tabs disappears, making Chrome's footprint smaller than that of Firefox.

Though I still wonder why Chrome's menu bar enlarges when the window is not maximized.

Edit: A screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/yabXSEz.png

Re: Firefox Quantum

#33

Post by fiatjaf »

simion314 wrote: post #9

I still use the Firefox ESR for the dev tools, the new dev tools are missing things like the network response preview, the debugger is not working right for me, and the Chrome look does not appeal to me, I prefer the old dev tools. Other then this as a user I like the fact the Firefox is moving again and in a right direction most of the time. I hope they respect the user privacy more and the new privacy invading feat…

The old devtools were amazingly slow and heavy. The new ones are much much better. Almost as fast as Chrome's.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#34

Post by lsmod »

konart wrote: post #30

It'd be great if I could remove this ugly bar at the bottom of url suggestions input field (the one with "Search XXX in..." and search engine icons if any).

Visit "about:preferences#search" and then uncheck every search engine under "One-Click Search Engines" list.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#35

Post by fiatjaf »

imple wrote: post #7
marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

This is from pre-57 versions, right? I'm on 58 and it is much smaller than that.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#36

Post by fiatjaf »

flohofwoe wrote: post #20
marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

Looks like in Firefox v56 you need to change the start page to "blank" in the preferences (edit: to get the address bar focused after opening a window). However in current Nightly (which is on v58) the input focus goes straight to the address bar, even in the default settings, so looks like more users complained ;) I'm just using Ctrl-L to focus the address bar, works on all operating systems and browsers.

On Firefox 57 that is indeed solved.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#37

Post by mariusmg »

flohofwoe wrote: post #20
marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

Looks like in Firefox v56 you need to change the start page to "blank" in the preferences (edit: to get the address bar focused after opening a window). However in current Nightly (which is on v58) the input focus goes straight to the address bar, even in the default settings, so looks like more users complained ;) I'm just using Ctrl-L to focus the address bar, works on all operating systems and browsers.

Alt +D. Left hand friendly :)

Re: Firefox Quantum

#38

Post by suprfnk »

fiatjaf wrote: post #35
imple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

This is from pre-57 versions, right? I'm on 58 and it is much smaller than that.

> running FF58

Re: Firefox Quantum

#39

Post by konart »

lsmod wrote: post #34
konart wrote: post #30

It'd be great if I could remove this ugly bar at the bottom of url suggestions input field (the one with "Search XXX in..." and search engine icons if any).

Visit "about:preferences#search" and then uncheck every search engine under "One-Click Search Engines" list.

Okay, I'm stupid. For some reason I never even tried to uncked _all_ of them. Always been keeping Google, thinking it should be there for search in the url bar to work.

Thanks!

Re: Firefox Quantum

#40

Post by Santosh83 »

agumonkey wrote: post #11
imple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

It's probably a subjective proportion thing. Pure metrics aren't necessary what people "measure", maybe the border above tabs is not seen as wasted space. Same for perf, Firefox might be faster in tests, but chrome has an overall feel of speed is "better".

Certainly not the case as far as opening new tabs goes on my machine, an 1.9Ghz with 4Gb RAM. Firefox opens the new tab instantly while Chrome has a noticeable delay. The same with closing tabs, especially heavy ones. Also Chrome takes just a little bit longer to start than the latest Firefox, although I didn't actually measure this.

I think the general perception that Chrome is fast is more a group-think at this point, fostered by a few years of sub-par Firefox performance combined with aggressive Google marketing. There's no real difference since the last few versions of Firefox vs. Chrome.

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