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Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by mfwoods »

kome wrote: post #27
mfwoods wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Signal Desktop works without having your phone turned on. It acts like a full, independent client after linking it to your smartphone app (unlike WhatsApp, which does require your phone to be turned on).

wow, sorry. my bad. So I guess there is a way to use signal without having a phone nowadays! That's a great news! I will try right now.

You still need a phone with a registered Signal on iOS or Android initially to activate the desktop version (sorry if that wasn't clear), but you can turn your phone off after.

Edit: It actually has the option to register without smartphone, but it's only enabled in the debug versions.

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by daxorid »

noja wrote: post #30

> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.

I think you underestimate the number of people whose first post-installation task is setenforce 0

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by noja »

kome wrote: post #19

Signal Desktop is not really standalone, because you still need to pair it with your phone. And the phone should be turned on. I am very privacy conscious, and I don't use a smartphone, at all, because it's basically a spying device in your pocket. Why Signal is all about privacy and then it forces me to pair it with a telephone? Telegram desktop is really standalone. They require a telephone number too (and that's v…

> I am very privacy conscious

How did you evaluate Telegram to decide that you trust it?

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by noja »

daxorid wrote: post #32
noja wrote: post #30

> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.

I think you underestimate the number of people whose first post-installation task is setenforce 0

I know no Linux admin (good or not) that does that. It's 2017.

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by richardwhiuk »

noja wrote: post #30

> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.

Fedora doesn't support APT right? It needs to be packaged separately? So it's a whole bunch of work for a small user base.

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by noja »

richardwhiuk wrote: post #35
noja wrote: post #30

> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.

Fedora doesn't support APT right? It needs to be packaged separately? So it's a whole bunch of work for a small user base.

It's a different user base. Give us a github repo and we can build it ourself. Let me see if I can find one.

Edit: https://github.com/WhisperSystems/Signal-Desktop

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by moosingin3space »

noja wrote: post #30

> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.

It uses `electron-builder`, which has rpm support. I don't think it would be that difficult to add in a pull request, might do it myself later. (I use Fedora, with SELinux and Wayland and all that good stuff)

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by eeZah7Ux »

noja wrote: post #30

> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.

> SELinux means you are getting the people who value security

Proper, very strict sandboxes implemented with seccomp & friends are much more secure. You simply block the large majority of system calls.

Surprisingly, they are often easier to set up.

Re: Standalone Signal Desktop

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Post by kome »

noja wrote: post #33
kome wrote: post #19

Signal Desktop is not really standalone, because you still need to pair it with your phone. And the phone should be turned on. I am very privacy conscious, and I don't use a smartphone, at all, because it's basically a spying device in your pocket. Why Signal is all about privacy and then it forces me to pair it with a telephone? Telegram desktop is really standalone. They require a telephone number too (and that's v…

> I am very privacy conscious How did you evaluate Telegram to decide that you trust it?

I don't trust them, it's just that I can use them. The real problem is requiring a smartphone.
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