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First field report of iPhone X

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Re: First field report of iPhone X

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One thing to Apple PR credit is faceid. For me it's hot needle replacement for failed attempt to integrate touchid into display, but for most people it is innovation.

Just to get this out there, faceID uses a depth "camera" (right??) Previous approaches on Android, etc use image rec from the front camera.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Please do explain why you don't view Face ID as an innovation over existing technology.

I'm asking same question. How is faceid innovation over touchid? But to answer your question. With touchid you can unlock your phone immediately you bring it out of pocket. I don't see any additional value over touchid. For me it's actually inferior, because I have to grab the phone even for simple tasks, like reading new message. So why should I accept this? Because of larger screen, which is not even bezel to bezel…

It was raining a bit yesterday and that made the fingerprint sensor on my phone basically useless. I forgot how much it was used (unlock, banking apps, payments).

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Maybe he doesn't buy a $800 Android ? And doesn't buy every new release ? There are new $200+ Android phones.

I often wonder what people do with these super expensive phones to be honest. I have a cheap Xiaomi phone and it runs the same apps everyone else does. My guess is that the expensive phones are bought primarily for their cameras. I'm not big into photography but I can see how that makes a stronger argument for the likes of the iPhone X and Note 8 etc.

Personally, I just like to use the latest technology – I live and breath it every day in my job and I like to keep up on trends. I don't go out and spend a ton of money at clubs, bars, and fancy restaurants, I go to the movies maybe once a year, I drive a sensible car. For me, hardware like the latest smartphone or computer is what I like to spend my discretional income on – simple as that. To each his/her own.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe he doesn't buy a $800 Android ? And doesn't buy every new release ? There are new $200+ Android phones.

I often wonder what people do with these super expensive phones to be honest. I have a cheap Xiaomi phone and it runs the same apps everyone else does. My guess is that the expensive phones are bought primarily for their cameras. I'm not big into photography but I can see how that makes a stronger argument for the likes of the iPhone X and Note 8 etc.

Camera for photos of the kids is certainly my self-justification. My SLR takes better photos - but all the best photos of my kids are on my phone - because it’s what I have in my pocket.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe he doesn't buy a $800 Android ? And doesn't buy every new release ? There are new $200+ Android phones.

I often wonder what people do with these super expensive phones to be honest. I have a cheap Xiaomi phone and it runs the same apps everyone else does. My guess is that the expensive phones are bought primarily for their cameras. I'm not big into photography but I can see how that makes a stronger argument for the likes of the iPhone X and Note 8 etc.

I'm an iPhone user, but my primary reason for upgrading in the past was the camera. These days, the cameras are good enough, so I hung onto my 5S for an extra year or two and expect I'll keep the 7 for 3+ years as well.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

#36

One thing to Apple PR credit is faceid. For me it's hot needle replacement for failed attempt to integrate touchid into display, but for most people it is innovation.

You appear to be assuming that integrating Touch ID into the display was Apple's first choice. If face ID works as promised I can’t see why anyone would prefer Touch ID over Face ID. Even if your assumption is correct Face ID is still innovative.

There are fairly plentiful leaks from Apple indicating that they attempted to get an "under display" fingerprint sensor to work.

I don't know that "Apple" had a first choice at all, and I suspect that there was diversity of opinion within Apple about which authentication method would be superior if both were technically feasible.

People might reasonably prefer fingerprint to facial recognition for speed reasons, allowing the phone to be unlocked by the time you look at it.

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm asking same question. How is faceid innovation over touchid? But to answer your question. With touchid you can unlock your phone immediately you bring it out of pocket. I don't see any additional value over touchid. For me it's actually inferior, because I have to grab the phone even for simple tasks, like reading new message. So why should I accept this? Because of larger screen, which is not even bezel to bezel…

You make a good point, but to counter, can modern touchscreen phones be used without looking at them? Volume buttons and power off / on can be used without looking, but you can also use those without unlocking your phone.

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Re: First field report of iPhone X

#38

One thing to Apple PR credit is faceid. For me it's hot needle replacement for failed attempt to integrate touchid into display, but for most people it is innovation.

You appear to be assuming that integrating Touch ID into the display was Apple's first choice. If face ID works as promised I can’t see why anyone would prefer Touch ID over Face ID. Even if your assumption is correct Face ID is still innovative.

Depending on the performance, when I use TouchID from my pocket, the device is unlocked by the time I get it in front of me to use (because I pick it up and hold my thumb over the fingerprint sensor)

Re: First field report of iPhone X

#39
I am excited for this phone (as a lifelong Android user) because of the large screen in the small form factor. I really appreciate high resolution screens but I'm tired of needing ginormous phones to get it.

This device seems to have a great screen in the perfect form factor for me.

I'm waiting to see some reviews before purchasing but the iPhone X is probably going to be my next phone.

Sidenote, anybody have any tips on migrating from android to iOS?

Re: First field report of iPhone X

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One thing to Apple PR credit is faceid. For me it's hot needle replacement for failed attempt to integrate touchid into display, but for most people it is innovation.

Why is TouchID superior to FaceID? I just want to understand why you think FaceID is a failure? If FaceID lives up to Apples claims it will have less friction and higher security, so win win, and I'm sure Apple are aware of how popular TouchID is, I don't see them replacing it with a dud.

Because it can be unlocked in your pocket for SOS use cases.

Because it can be unlocked under the table or at a very low angle to be used in places such as a restaurant, meeting room, theater etc.

Because one can use TouchID for Apple Pay much quicker and more reliably in a crowded/rushed situation such as paying for public transport.

Becuase TouchID actually allows multiple users on the same device if if that is not an intended feature.

The list can go on....

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