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Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by aaron-lebo »

praneshp wrote: post #24

The tweet linked in the article about letting this "play out" paints him worse, if that was possible. https://twitter.com/gtlpearson/status/921480719381254144

Why was Redesk CEO Guy Pearson looking to hire someone for a speaking engagement the day after they were accused of sexual assault?

I stole that from Twitter, but it's not a good look. Did he just not really care or did he figure that he could act duplicitous and insert himself into a situation that has nothing to do with him? Who benefits from that?

Would rather not make this comment at all because there's an actual issue worth talking about here, but let's not applaud toxic behavior.

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by oculusforever »

Mz wrote: post #17

Well, it is sort of weak. But: A) How many actually good examples do we have to draw upon? Most such things are pretty blatant attempts at saving face. This at least has some sincerity to it. B) He isn't justifying, excusing or denying. He did quit drinking already, which is perhaps the most important thing he could do to prove he is taking it seriously that he needs to stop hurting other people. He is fairly realist…

He didn't quit drinking or doing drugs. https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/robert-scoble-has-allegedl...

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

baudehlo wrote: post #25
oxryly1 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hence public announcements and public apologies are too be taken with (at least one) large grain of salt. It's up to his victims to forgive him -- not us.

Wait, what? Why does he need to be forgiven?

He doesn't, and if he were to be forgiven, it's only his victims who have the right to do so, not the rest of us in the peanut gallery.

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by RealGeek »

justboxing wrote: post #18

Can't seem to find any details on the extent of his mis-behaviour. Wikipedia page says "sexually assaulted", and that "Sarah Seitz, a sustainability analyst at NASA, replied accusing Scoble of also having assaulted her" Isn't sexual assault a serious crime? Why didn't these women report it to the Police. Or does touching without consent or grabbing someone or trying to grope someone (like our current President is all…

I was shocked to learn that most of the women I know have faced sexual assault (unwanted grabbing or groping), but none of them ever reported to the police. Similarly, most men I know have suffered some sort of physical assault but none reported it.

How many men do you know who have been punched by someone? Did they report it to police?

The reason why they don't report is because such crimes are very hard to prosecute and prove in court. Prosecuting them takes a toll on victim's life and rarely result in anything positive for the victim.

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by js2 »

baudehlo wrote: post #25
oxryly1 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hence public announcements and public apologies are too be taken with (at least one) large grain of salt. It's up to his victims to forgive him -- not us.

Wait, what? Why does he need to be forgiven?

You don't forgive someone who has wronged you for them; you forgive them for you. It is part of healing.

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by dfabulich »

oculusforever wrote: post #29

He's not even a little sorry. He's apologized like 5 times for this stuff: https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/20/robert-scoble-has-allegedl...

A real apology requires a clear statement of what you did wrong, why it was wrong, and what exactly you'll do better in the future.

This apology doesn't even say what he did wrong. (He "damaged trust," "caused pain," "behaved in ways that were inappropriate.") He didn't admit that he sexually harassed anyone, say nothing of sexual assault.

Without a clear admission of what he did, I have no idea if he knows why it was wrong. He's done this many times! Does he think sexual assault is a bad thing only because it would "damage trust" in him, because it tarnishes his reputation?

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by trgv »

Mz wrote: post #17

Well, it is sort of weak. But: A) How many actually good examples do we have to draw upon? Most such things are pretty blatant attempts at saving face. This at least has some sincerity to it. B) He isn't justifying, excusing or denying. He did quit drinking already, which is perhaps the most important thing he could do to prove he is taking it seriously that he needs to stop hurting other people. He is fairly realist…

Amends aren't hard to do, especially if you get to type them out and proofread them.

He says the question is "how can I do better?" That's not the question. The question is, will he be charged, and, if he is, what conclusion will the jury come to?

That's how this system is supposed to work.

Re: Robert Scoble: “I apologize.”

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Post by oculusforever »

aaron-lebo wrote: post #31
praneshp wrote: post #24

The tweet linked in the article about letting this "play out" paints him worse, if that was possible. https://twitter.com/gtlpearson/status/921480719381254144

Why was Redesk CEO Guy Pearson looking to hire someone for a speaking engagement the day after they were accused of sexual assault? I stole that from Twitter, but it's not a good look. Did he just not really care or did he figure that he could act duplicitous and insert himself into a situation that has nothing to do with him? Who benefits from that? Would rather not make this comment at all because there's an actual…

you don't know what the timestamps are, he probably asked him the previous day or even a week ago.
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