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I was sexually assaulted at Equinox and banned for reporting it

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Re: I was sexually assaulted at Equinox and banned for reporting it

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Post by fpig »

yorwba wrote: post #25
fpig wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he was sexually assaulted and they're banning him to cover their own ass, that's way worse than victim blaming as it suggests they are aware the victim is not at fault yet they punish the victim anyway. An economic incentive does not excuse immoral acts. It's disgusting how quick people are to defend this kind of behavior. Anyone who was involved in making that decision is a worthless piece of shit.

I always find it sad when an explanation of the reasoning behind some immoral behavior is treated like a justification or defense. I find it sad because it discourages understanding opinions you disagree with, and because I think that understanding is important. If Equinox acted that way simply because they are an evil corporation, nothing could be done about it; but if they followed an economic incentive, then chang…

Very few people harm others because they're simply "evil", this type of cartoon evil is not really common if it even exists.

Harming others for selfish reasons is practically the definition of "evil" in the real world. So all involved are evil.

Re: I was sexually assaulted at Equinox and banned for reporting it

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Post by tim333 »

yorwba wrote: post #25
fpig wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he was sexually assaulted and they're banning him to cover their own ass, that's way worse than victim blaming as it suggests they are aware the victim is not at fault yet they punish the victim anyway. An economic incentive does not excuse immoral acts. It's disgusting how quick people are to defend this kind of behavior. Anyone who was involved in making that decision is a worthless piece of shit.

I always find it sad when an explanation of the reasoning behind some immoral behavior is treated like a justification or defense. I find it sad because it discourages understanding opinions you disagree with, and because I think that understanding is important. If Equinox acted that way simply because they are an evil corporation, nothing could be done about it; but if they followed an economic incentive, then chang…

Also if Equinox followed and an economic incentive by banning the guy even though he's a victim, he should perhaps return the favour by suing them for some large sum even though the problem probably wasn't really their fault. Such are the wonders of the legal system.

Re: I was sexually assaulted at Equinox and banned for reporting it

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Post by emerged »

fpig wrote: post #31
yorwba wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always find it sad when an explanation of the reasoning behind some immoral behavior is treated like a justification or defense. I find it sad because it discourages understanding opinions you disagree with, and because I think that understanding is important. If Equinox acted that way simply because they are an evil corporation, nothing could be done about it; but if they followed an economic incentive, then chang…

Very few people harm others because they're simply "evil", this type of cartoon evil is not really common if it even exists. Harming others for selfish reasons is practically the definition of "evil" in the real world. So all involved are evil.

Sadism is more common than you're supposing IMO, but agreed that incentive based "evil" is probably more common.

Re: I was sexually assaulted at Equinox and banned for reporting it

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Post by wdr1 »

koolba wrote: post #12

> Three weeks after I’d sent Equinox a request for assistance, I received a call from a senior global executive. Without an ounce of compassion, he told me I was banned from Equinox — that, as a private gym, they had the right to cancel my membership for any reason, and they’ve decided to terminate mine. I bet this came from the legal department. It seems blunt (and it is), but the rationale would be something like,…

> $10K for a gym membership over two years?! That over $416/month. Is that normal for the area?

I'm not sure what area he's in, but he's probably including the cost of classes, trainers or similar.

I was a member of Equinox in WeHo & then Santa Monica. This was a while ago, so if I remember correctly, I think I paid ~$150/month. When I used a personal trainer, it was about $1k for 10 sessions.

There are 24 Hour Fitness, Bally's & the like in the area and they're more modestly priced. Probably $30/month.

The biggest difference comes down to how long you have to wait. If you go to Bally's after work, you're probably going to wait for cardio. At Equinox, I could show up at 5:30pm and typically get on a bike or treadmill. Occasionally there would still be a wait, but probably a few minutes.

The equipment itself wasn't that different. Nor were the other facilities. Equinox is a /little/ nicer in atheistics & the locker room, but that's about it.

The WeHo location did have the added kick of it wasn't uncommon to see someone reasonably famous. For whatever reason, I overlapped with Fabio's workout a lot. Not enough to exchange names, but enough that we would give each other a familiar hello nod. I also also was once during curls & looked over to see Jay Z on the bench. What I first noticed were people acting odd (they were bodyguards I later assumed). Apparently Beyonce was there as well, but I didn't see her myself.

Re: I was sexually assaulted at Equinox and banned for reporting it

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Post by Mithaldu »

yorwba wrote: post #25
fpig wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he was sexually assaulted and they're banning him to cover their own ass, that's way worse than victim blaming as it suggests they are aware the victim is not at fault yet they punish the victim anyway. An economic incentive does not excuse immoral acts. It's disgusting how quick people are to defend this kind of behavior. Anyone who was involved in making that decision is a worthless piece of shit.

I always find it sad when an explanation of the reasoning behind some immoral behavior is treated like a justification or defense. I find it sad because it discourages understanding opinions you disagree with, and because I think that understanding is important. If Equinox acted that way simply because they are an evil corporation, nothing could be done about it; but if they followed an economic incentive, then chang…

They are evil though. They harmed someone and instead of making good for it they only protect themselves. There is no "both sides" to this.

Re: I was sexually assaulted at Equinox and banned for reporting it

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Post by pvg »

matt4077 wrote: post #13

This has 100 votes after one hour. It has no connection to technology. It's an unverified post on medium. And the punishment referred to in the headline is that the $5000/yr membership to his gym was cancelled. Meanwhile, discussions of women' discrimination, in the tech sector, from reputable sources are flagged as fast as possible. C. f.: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15267221

It has no connection to technology.

Having a connection to technology is not a requirement for HN stories.

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