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>Google's leadership profoundly betrayed the longtime personal trust and friendship of Apple's leadership in stealing what Steve Jobs believed were Apple's most prized possessions. You may think it’s a coincidence, but then you realize it isn’t. https://verbose.co/33

Ah yes, Steve Jobs would be quite the guy to lecture anyone about betrayls of trust and friendship.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

#32
It has been going on for a while:

https://www.theverge.com/2015/2/17/8048779/google-x-eli-atti...

This 2008 patent application has a number of interesting illustrations:

https://www.google.com/patents/US20090234696

(note the actually granted Google patents that reference this one)

Seems like the original idea was LEGO-like modular system of components that can be combined into buildings.

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I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

> Things need to change!!!

How should things change? I genuinely feel for you so keep the rest of what I'm going to say at arms distance.

The way I see it, you are essentially asking people not to learn from each other. Software is not basic science where, if you discover a process or a particle, you are putting into words something outside the human brain.

Software (mathematical formulations aside) describes how the brain works. Anyone can hear a high level description of your SpeakerBlast an imagine a way to sync speakers. Their implementation might be radically different to yours but there is no way for you to stop me from imagining a solution based simply on your two sentence description of the product.

If you want to learn more about this process, there's a book by a neuroscientist, The Tell-Tale Brain by VS Ramachandran, which delves into the process of mirroring and meme spreading.

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> Google did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but a judge in the case noted last year that the firm has argued that Attia gave Google rights to his technology “without a condition of later payment.” So Google's defense isn't even that the substance of the accusations are false, but that they had the legal ability to do so? Is this common behavior for Google, if the story is true? This may be naive, b…

No worries, they'll release a Parsey McParseface and then the world knows again that they're just a geeky tech startup having some fun.

Google is an advertising company. They can easily sacrifice reputation where it brings them the most profit and fix it again with a bit of PR.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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post #31
post #28

>Google's leadership profoundly betrayed the longtime personal trust and friendship of Apple's leadership in stealing what Steve Jobs believed were Apple's most prized possessions. You may think it’s a coincidence, but then you realize it isn’t. https://verbose.co/33

Ah yes, Steve Jobs would be quite the guy to lecture anyone about betrayls of trust and friendship.

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> Google did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but a judge in the case noted last year that the firm has argued that Attia gave Google rights to his technology “without a condition of later payment.” So Google's defense isn't even that the substance of the accusations are false, but that they had the legal ability to do so? Is this common behavior for Google, if the story is true? This may be naive, b…

Before Uber became Public Enemy #1 and prior to the Otto/Levandowski dispute, Google was planning on competing with Uber despite being an investor, which led Kalanick to e-mail David Drummond about it [1]. Drummond eventually left Uber's board (which harkens back to Schmidt leaving Apple's board) but this was well after the relationship had been deteriorating. [1] http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/595ea97dd9fc…

Was that really surprising? The company that builds the first self driving cars will have an easy entrance into the ride service industry.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

#38

I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

There is no benefit in complaining here. If you actually care, this sounds like it’s your opportunity to get a lawyer for some minimal amount of money to reach out to Attia’s lawyers and see if they’re interested. It seems they are pooling past examples demonstrating similar behavior.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

#39

I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

This is the price of weakening patents. When corporations were afraid of patent holders, this happened less. The great fear was, you infringe a patent, you get shut down. That happened to Kodak when they tried to get into instant photography in violation of Polaroid's patents. Kodak was forced to exit the instant camera business within 30 days and buy back every instant camera they'd sold.

Re: Google accused of racketeering in lawsuit

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post #34

I had a similar experience with Google; a mutual NDA was signed as seen here https://goo.gl/K9Wd1U . - Feb 2013 created SpeakerBlast; turn multiple devices into one sync speaker via a URL - March 2013 Samsung released the Galaxy 4 with Group Play (same concept as SpeakerBlast) - April 2013 Google/Motorola emails/calls me asking would I sell SpeakerBlast for inclusion into the Moto X - May 2013 Fly out from Baltimore…

> Things need to change!!! How should things change? I genuinely feel for you so keep the rest of what I'm going to say at arms distance. The way I see it, you are essentially asking people not to learn from each other. Software is not basic science where, if you discover a process or a particle, you are putting into words something outside the human brain. Software (mathematical formulations aside) describes how the…

>The way I see it, you are essentially asking people not to learn from each other.

I dont think he sayimg anything like that. There's a big difference between learning from each other and baiting you for your secret sauce.

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