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Off topic a bit, but anyone here use OpenBSD? I'd be interested in hearing why you use it, and what your experience has been like.
Off topic a bit, but anyone here use OpenBSD? I'd be interested in hearing why you use it, and what your experience has been like.
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All of those are available on linux distributions, enabled by default. Not only that, they were developed on linux distributions and available on them way before obsd.
No, they are not.
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I've used FreeBSD on my laptop (lenovo x201) for a long time, I've also installed OpenBSD from time to time. The rumors on the internet was that OpenBSD had better hardware support. I remember someone claiming that whereas FreeBSD developers use VMs to develop, OpenBSD devs used native machines (mostly laptops). I faintly remember that installing OpenBSD was harder than FreeBSD. FreeBSD came with a terminal graphical…
I don't get why people put so much emphasis on the boot time nowadays. I have a 5 years old laptop which takes less than 30 seconds to boot, with Xorg already. Even if you power cycle every day. If you ACPI sleep (and it works great), you I'll have to boot your machine once every 6 months, when there is a new OpenBSD release. I would much rather "spend 30 seconds" every 6 months to boot the OS I want to run for 12 ho…
Most people don't want or can't afford to have their computer running 24/7. Especially if they're not using it for more than 11 hours of that day. And if you use more than one OS on one computer, fast startup can save you a lot of time switching between those.
> I'm not sure people realize how much complexity you have to add to make a system boot even a couple of seconds faster.
Not true. I shaved 20 seconds off my boot time recently, by digging around in config files and disabling services that were never used, by backgrounding non-essential services that took a long time to start up, and by reducing the grub bootloader time. Everything I did was trivial, yet it cumulatively brought a large reduction in startup time, it's gone from one minute to ~30ish seconds now.
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> Do you really think the tools you use like your web browser, mail client etc, have less vulnerabilities on OpenBSD... A reasonable question, but presumptuously and poorly framed, I think. Mitigation efforts like privilege separation[0] (for daemons), ASLR[1], SSP[2], and now KARL[3] are designed to make things systemically better. I'm personally a NetBSD person, and don't see that ending anytime soon, but I do appr…
All of those were developed on linux and linux distributions and were available on those before obsd...
Bullshit.
> The i386 and amd64 platforms have switched to using clang(1) as the base system compiler. Nice!
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OT, but I've had trouble in the past when trying out NetBSD; I wanted to install it on my laptop with full disk encryption, but I clearly was missing something about how to do it properly, and I've never been able to find a good guide for it. Any chance you might know a blog post or something that details how to do this properly for a NetBSD newbie like me?
I've run it in the past, but not recently. I'll see if something appears to me and try to post it here for you. And good luck with your NetBSD journey, with or without FDE. I've thoroughly enjoyed my years with it as my primary OS.
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I don't get why people put so much emphasis on the boot time nowadays. I have a 5 years old laptop which takes less than 30 seconds to boot, with Xorg already. Even if you power cycle every day. If you ACPI sleep (and it works great), you I'll have to boot your machine once every 6 months, when there is a new OpenBSD release. I would much rather "spend 30 seconds" every 6 months to boot the OS I want to run for 12 ho…
> every 6 months Most people don't want or can't afford to have their computer running 24/7. Especially if they're not using it for more than 11 hours of that day. And if you use more than one OS on one computer, fast startup can save you a lot of time switching between those. > I'm not sure people realize how much complexity you have to add to make a system boot even a couple of seconds faster. Not true. I shaved 20…
I think the various power save modes have replaced shutdown for most personal computers. Even on my desktop (yes, I still have one of those at home) I just suspend it and only reboot on certain upgrades.
Off topic a bit, but anyone here use OpenBSD? I'd be interested in hearing why you use it, and what your experience has been like.