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Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by WorldMaker » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:10 PM UTC

cwyers wrote: post #16

I was a Groove subscriber for a few months while playing Forza Horizon 3, for the in-game integration with Groove. I am guessing this is the end of that feature, which is a shame, and reduces some of the replay value of that game for me. There's a Spotify app for Xbox finally, after their PlayStation partnership ended, but I'm doubtful that games with Groove integration are going to get updated.

Groove integration in Forza Horizon 3 supports OneDrive playlists as well. (I've used that.) The use of the Groove app for its OneDrive integration still exists, so supposedly that feature will still work for OneDrive playlists.

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by WorldMaker » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:13 PM UTC

romanovcode wrote: post #3

Nice! But what's the point of the app now? Shouldn't they discontinue the app itself as well then? Also, would be amazing if it would work both ways - you can play Spotify content in your Groove app because then you don't even need to install anything.

The Groove app is still useful for its OneDrive integration and local file support. It is a successor to Windows Media Player, so it would be strange for the app to disappear entirely. As someone that relies heavily on OneDrive streaming, I'm still likely to use the Groove app as much as I did before this change.

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by balls187 » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:15 PM UTC

henriquelimao wrote: post #24

Longhanks wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, Apple Music is better because a) the song limit is dramatically higher than Spotify (10k vs 100k) and b) I am free to add my own music (not available via streaming) to the library which is then available on all my devices.

The song limit is really better in Apple, but you are able to add your own music in Spotify. To listen to it in other devices I had to download it in them.

That download process is outside of Spotify, right?

With Apple Music, I believe, it's available across all your Apple music supported devices.

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by drumttocs8 » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:16 PM UTC

Well, they pretty much have to- Spotify will run in the background of games on an Xbox. Groove is completely unnecessary- smart to partner with the leader to stay relevant.

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by EasyTiger_ » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:19 PM UTC

Longhanks wrote: post #20

m_mueller wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is Apple Music successful despite this flaw (I assume it is from what I've read so far)?

For me, Apple Music is better because a) the song limit is dramatically higher than Spotify (10k vs 100k) and b) I am free to add my own music (not available via streaming) to the library which is then available on all my devices.

Not sure why you’re being downvoted. The ability to upload your own songs to the cloud is something I so wish Spotify had, it really is great.

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by MisterBastahrd » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:29 PM UTC

madamelic wrote: post #4

This is quite the way to say a service is shutting down. "We aren't closing, we are just transitioning our space into a new business and that business will take care of your needs from now on."

It's pretty much what Sony did with their Playstation music store.

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by Deimorz » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:30 PM UTC

ben_jones wrote: post #5

theDoug wrote: post #2

Great news for Spotify! It’s a shame Microsoft couldn't find a way to keep MSN Music, Zune Music, XBox Music, or Groove Music sustainable for their users.

There's two types of streaming service: "Let's vertically integrate this new service we have little experience with for profit and as a funnel to our other product lines" "Let's make a great streaming service that creates enough value for our customer that we remain profitable"

Which type is Spotify? They lost over $500M in 2016 (http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7833686/spotify-2...).

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:32 PM UTC

karim wrote: post #8

I wonder what is going to happen to the team developing it – IIRC they had a huge team in Paris and Seattle working on it.

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Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by dagaci » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:41 PM UTC

This makes perfect sense, these music services are not profit centers and without Windows Mobile Groove has no audience.

Plus Spotify is leaner, faster and a more streamlined app made by a company which is really focused on winning consumer.

Re: Microsoft to Bring Spotify to Groove Music Pass Customers

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Post by henriquelimao » Mon, Oct 02, 2017, 9:42 PM UTC

balls187 wrote: post #33

henriquelimao wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The song limit is really better in Apple, but you are able to add your own music in Spotify. To listen to it in other devices I had to download it in them.

That download process is outside of Spotify, right? With Apple Music, I believe, it's available across all your Apple music supported devices.

It is inside the app. It is the same process that you do to make playlists available offline. I only did that from my laptop to an android phone, I don't know if it works in all clients.