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Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by raganwald »

dmm wrote: post #24
raganwald wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I admire powerlifters, I wouldn't consider an extremely muscular body aesthetically perfect. My man crush is on athletes who are muscular but not extremely so, like Greg Louganis, Rafer Johnson, or Roger Federer. Federer can carry my bags any day ;-)

I never said that powerlifters were perfect. There are obviously many attractive body types. And almost anything is more attractive than the fat standard. Physical beauty is pretty small thing. We all get old. It matters a lot more what you create and how you treat children. I was just making a little observation about how much perspective matters. No insult was intended for the gentlemen in question. It's just that…

I save my downvotes for comments that lower the quality of discourse. Disagreeing with me in many cases raises the level of intelligence of a discussion even if I don't personally like it :-)

Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by Tichy »

raganwald wrote: post #5

In all fairness to the team behind this, they're obviously trying to cross the product over into a new demographic. If Old Spice's existing demographic is dying off, there can be a huge payoff if they succeed in making it hip and ironic. Remember the Black Label campaigns in the 90s? That succeeded in turning a moribund beer brand into a hip brand. It's worth swinging the bat a few times over the next five years to s…

I guess they should have used the occasion to say "oh by the way, we are now called 'young spice'".

Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by _pi »

sprout wrote: post #11
_pi wrote: post #4

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Last time I "tried" Old Spice I got a rash. They make crappy deodorant. It's okay if you're used to it but if you switch prepare for the worst. For some reason I've found this to be more common with Old Spice rather than any other deodorant brand.

I've gotten a rash from just about every deodorant on the market after half a container or so. The only ones I trust are the simple white cake ones. And they usually say 'dermatologist tested' since they require a gimmick to be sold. I wish we could go back to when nobody wore the stuff.

You could have contact dermatitis (skin allergy) when exposed to aluminum.

Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by youareanidiot »

MrRage wrote: post #27
j_baker wrote: post #9

My first instincts are to assume this is a "post hoc ergo propter hoc" statement. Just because sales are falling doesn't mean the commercial is ineffective. After all, how do you know that sales wouldn't be down 14% without the ads?

If that's the case then you can say the commercial is ineffective, because you can say that the commercial didn't raise sales. You can never conclusively say that the commercial raised sales when they're up or lowered sales when they're down, but the commercial surely didn't raise sales when they're down.

you are a fucking idiot and don't understand basic logic. eat a bag of dicks.

Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by dmm »

raganwald wrote: post #31
dmm wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never said that powerlifters were perfect. There are obviously many attractive body types. And almost anything is more attractive than the fat standard. Physical beauty is pretty small thing. We all get old. It matters a lot more what you create and how you treat children. I was just making a little observation about how much perspective matters. No insult was intended for the gentlemen in question. It's just that…

I save my downvotes for comments that lower the quality of discourse. Disagreeing with me in many cases raises the level of intelligence of a discussion even if I don't personally like it :-)

> I save my downvotes for comments that lower the quality of discourse.

Interesting strategy. I usually reserve mine for people who use ruby.

Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by raganwald »

dmm wrote: post #35
raganwald wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I save my downvotes for comments that lower the quality of discourse. Disagreeing with me in many cases raises the level of intelligence of a discussion even if I don't personally like it :-)

> I save my downvotes for comments that lower the quality of discourse. Interesting strategy. I usually reserve mine for people who use ruby.

> I usually reserve mine for people who use ruby.

Downvote away! I have karma to burn. ;-)

Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by detst »

_pi wrote: post #30
detst wrote: post #25

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Everyone's different. This person is just as likely to get a rash from your favorite deodorant as they are Old Spice. There's nothing inherently wrong with Old Spice.

This is not explicitly true. Old Spice products use aluminum compounds in their deodorants aluminum based compounds especially when as fine as they are in deodorant are generally an irritant and a poison for your body. It's been proven to cause Alzheimers. I use Adidas 24 Hour control which doesn't contain aluminum. It's common to be allergic to aluminum.

Fair enough but I just think it's a little dishonest to call out Old Spice when many deodorants contain aluminum and you have an allergy. It just seems you could have made this post initially and that anyone in your shoes would already know to factor it in.

Re: Reality: Old Spice sales are down since ad campaign began

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Post by _pi »

detst wrote: post #39
_pi wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not explicitly true. Old Spice products use aluminum compounds in their deodorants aluminum based compounds especially when as fine as they are in deodorant are generally an irritant and a poison for your body. It's been proven to cause Alzheimers. I use Adidas 24 Hour control which doesn't contain aluminum. It's common to be allergic to aluminum.

Fair enough but I just think it's a little dishonest to call out Old Spice when many deodorants contain aluminum and you have an allergy. It just seems you could have made this post initially and that anyone in your shoes would already know to factor it in.

True my original post is a bit harsh. The point is Old Spice is like the Burger King of deodorants, yeah there are McDonalds but McDonalds didn't have a recent gigantic/viral ad campaign with a now popular figure.
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