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Damn, those load times. This is on all my tests – fast internet or dialup, 2016 desktop or ancient android phone – significantly faster than the real HN. Wow.
Clone: 22 requests | 1.1 MB transferred | Finish:2.86 s | DOMContentLoaded 636 ms | Load:2.87 ms Real Hacker News: 6 requests | 11.5 KB transferred | Finish: 336 ms | DOMContentLoaded: 325 ms | Load: 343 ms Hacker News is just a static cached webpage
Awesome job. This is not a knock on JavaScript in particular, but the amount of brain bandwidth and dependencies to launch a modern web app is getting a bit absurd. I'm turning into that old grumpy hacker who prefers the simple good ole' days of LAMP. :-) React - (UI Framework) GraphQL - (Web Data API) Apollo - (GraphQL Client) Next - (Routing, SSR, Hot Module Reloading, Code Splitting, Build tool uses Webpack) Redux…
- 1.1 MB of assets (pretty much all of it scripts).
- 300ms of JS execution (on fast desktop in Chrome 63)
- document.querySelectorAll("*").length = 742
in terms of perf, i'm sorry, but this is nothing to be proud of. even a fast vdom lib without SSR can do this in 10% the payload (or less) and 20% the scripting time (or less). why people are amazed at the speed of this impl is rather odd to me. i suppose it works well to demonstrate a large stack, but what you end up paying for that stack is plainly evident here.
Awesome job. This is not a knock on JavaScript in particular, but the amount of brain bandwidth and dependencies to launch a modern web app is getting a bit absurd. I'm turning into that old grumpy hacker who prefers the simple good ole' days of LAMP. :-) React - (UI Framework) GraphQL - (Web Data API) Apollo - (GraphQL Client) Next - (Routing, SSR, Hot Module Reloading, Code Splitting, Build tool uses Webpack) Redux…
I personally build 80% of my apps using Rails or Django, with vanilla coffeescript or javascript + a few libraries for graphs. That works for most business applications, and pretty much any information app (which IMO are usually the most valuable by dollars)
Rails is easier for most people to develop in (even if they are framiliar with JS or Django) within a week of starting. Usually after a 5 minute discussion I can show them why it's amazing and everyone switches over.
However, at a point, react and the like becomes easier when you want a prettier customer facing application, or when you want only part of the web page to update in real time (Personally, I can do this in Rails, but many find react easier). Point being, in those cases a framework that's literally built for that might be easier, and that's when it should be used.
Honestly, I think this whole JS craze is annoying, and I try to run no javascript. Because of that, I might be more sensitive than most and I design websites accordingly (only using JS as necessary)
Hey, so, uh... all you need to clone HN is Postgres and some HTML/CSS and a smidgen of JavaScript. Good God, must we pull in the entire JavaScript ecosystem for a simple forum now?
I think this is really nicely done. It's probably a little over-engineered for a project of this size, but it shows the power of using all of these libraries together, and I'm sure it was a great learning experience. Does anyone know what tool was used to generate the system architecture diagram? It's really clean and clear - https://github.com/clintonwoo/hackernews-react-graphql#archi...
This kind of feels a little over-engineered.
Edit: To downvoters, care to explain why I am wrong?
The project is extremely well done. It is impressive in its documentation and execution. But in the real world done, launched, and with traction is more important than being well engineered. The existing implementations of upvote style sites work just fine.
When Digg.com -- one of the first upvote style boards to go mainstream -- launched in 2004 dozens of copy cats came up. Few succeeded. Why? Community.
Also, we are moving away from the decentralized web, unfortunately. For instance, few people run their own Wordpress blog now. Most use Blogger or Medium. I don't see how projects like this fit in in that world.
Now, if rather than be a HN clone he added the ability for people to create and moderate their own boards. That would get my upvote.
Awesome job. This is not a knock on JavaScript in particular, but the amount of brain bandwidth and dependencies to launch a modern web app is getting a bit absurd. I'm turning into that old grumpy hacker who prefers the simple good ole' days of LAMP. :-) React - (UI Framework) GraphQL - (Web Data API) Apollo - (GraphQL Client) Next - (Routing, SSR, Hot Module Reloading, Code Splitting, Build tool uses Webpack) Redux…
Just from looking at the list of libraries/frameworks/tech used, it seems like it was over-engineered. It was probably a fun project to work on, or maybe it was a good learning experience for the developer, but it seems like it's a wee bit too over-complicated. If someone wanted to release something like this to actual customers then I don't think you'd want to make it like that. This is coming from someone who start…
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Just from looking at the list of libraries/frameworks/tech used, it seems like it was over-engineered. It was probably a fun project to work on, or maybe it was a good learning experience for the developer, but it seems like it's a wee bit too over-complicated. If someone wanted to release something like this to actual customers then I don't think you'd want to make it like that. This is coming from someone who start…
I am sorry, but your gut feeling of why you think this is over engineered is not an argument.
Awesome job. This is not a knock on JavaScript in particular, but the amount of brain bandwidth and dependencies to launch a modern web app is getting a bit absurd. I'm turning into that old grumpy hacker who prefers the simple good ole' days of LAMP. :-) React - (UI Framework) GraphQL - (Web Data API) Apollo - (GraphQL Client) Next - (Routing, SSR, Hot Module Reloading, Code Splitting, Build tool uses Webpack) Redux…
Flow? Unfortunate that it's a separate thing but it gets types which will relieve most programmers.
Yarn? .NET has Nuget, Ruby has Gem, Go has dep, etc.
Passport? I sure as hell don't want to do authentication all on my own.
Jest? I mean, you don't have to test but everyone should.