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The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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I am certain that this story was inspired by the reporter reading this recent reddit thread that pointed out the absurdity of this show: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/6zgpig/what_is_t...

Modern "journalism" is mostly copy pasting content from Reddit. BuzzFeed turns AskReddits into listicles, higher quality publications turn Reddit posts into long form content.

BuzzFeed's journalism and BuzzFeed's listicle content are entirely different things.

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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I've always hated this show, in my PBS show rankings it's barely above Caillou, which was totally banned when my kids were little. Sir Topham Hat is such a fascist. I'd pay-per-view the episode where the trains revolt and Sodor burns down.

Lol why was Caillou "totally banned" for your little kids??

He's go to be the most annoying children's show character ever. That's saying a lot, when you consider just how many kids characters have zero redeeming qualities.

He whines, about just about everything, everywhere. Relentlessly. https://youtu.be/cGo60pp_9IM?t=6m30s It got really annoying when my wife and I watched it with some of my nieces (and saw how the show influenced their behaviour) that when we had kids of our own we agreed that we'd never allow them to watch Caillou.

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol why was Caillou "totally banned" for your little kids??

A lot of parents noticed children imitating poor behaviour. Banning Caillou is pretty common.

The things you learn when you grow up haha. I remember to have watched Caillou when I was a kid but obviously I never noticed Caillou behaving badly.

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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post #27

Thomas & Friends is gold. The show is dignified and wholesome. It is always about respect, diligence, and humility. It isn't there for stupid antics and wacky laughs. It doesn't blast color explosions and ADHD-fueled off-the-charts mind-numbing exuburance to capture kids attention. And it's been doing that for decades (pretty much eternity, as far as kids TV goes). Not since Mr. Rogers has there been a better kids TV…

>The show is dignified and wholesome. really? I always found it to be quite creepy. The constant obsession with being a "really useful" engine. The shaming of engines who don't toe the line. Victimisation of engines who misbehave. The show makes me strangely uncomfortable for some reason.

It doesn't make as much sense for our imminent future state, when robots do all our jobs and we sit around all day, but I like the distinctive "really useful engine" complement.

Obedience, diligence, and selflessness are admirable qualities. All kids and adults should strive to be really useful, in the best sense of the phrase. There's far too much narcissism in the world.

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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Thomas & Friends is gold. The show is dignified and wholesome. It is always about respect, diligence, and humility. It isn't there for stupid antics and wacky laughs. It doesn't blast color explosions and ADHD-fueled off-the-charts mind-numbing exuburance to capture kids attention. And it's been doing that for decades (pretty much eternity, as far as kids TV goes). Not since Mr. Rogers has there been a better kids TV…

> Better known as Sir Topham Hatt since the 1950s.

Seemingly only in the US ("the Fat Controller is always referred to by his real name, "Sir Topham Hatt" in the US"[0]). I was born in 1990 (UK), and as I recall he was almost always refered to as "The Fat Controller".

[0] http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Sir_Topham_Hatt#Trivia

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol why was Caillou "totally banned" for your little kids??

We banned it as well. The character is unrelentingly whiny, and my kids (two years old, at the time) started picking up the mannerisms very, very quickly. For a while, Google's canonical answer to "Why is Caillou bald?" was "Caillou can't grow hair, not because he has cancer or progeria, but because he sucks, and even his own body recognizes that he does not deserve hair or food or love." https://www.sbnation.com/201…

That's a pretty funny answer.

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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post #4

I am certain that this story was inspired by the reporter reading this recent reddit thread that pointed out the absurdity of this show: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/6zgpig/what_is_t...

It's not exactly the first article to discuss issues with the show though (e.g http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/11597925/Why-d... from 2015).

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The show is dignified and wholesome. really? I always found it to be quite creepy. The constant obsession with being a "really useful" engine. The shaming of engines who don't toe the line. Victimisation of engines who misbehave. The show makes me strangely uncomfortable for some reason.

It doesn't make as much sense for our imminent future state, when robots do all our jobs and we sit around all day, but I like the distinctive "really useful engine" complement. Obedience, diligence, and selflessness are admirable qualities. All kids and adults should strive to be really useful, in the best sense of the phrase. There's far too much narcissism in the world.

>I like "really useful engine" complement

That's fine, but in Thomas it's presented as : be really useful or else...

I find it mildly sinister, I have a visceral dislike for the show. The moralising does not sit well with me at all.

Re: The Repressive, Authoritarian Soul of “Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends”

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post #27

Thomas & Friends is gold. The show is dignified and wholesome. It is always about respect, diligence, and humility. It isn't there for stupid antics and wacky laughs. It doesn't blast color explosions and ADHD-fueled off-the-charts mind-numbing exuburance to capture kids attention. And it's been doing that for decades (pretty much eternity, as far as kids TV goes). Not since Mr. Rogers has there been a better kids TV…

>The show is dignified and wholesome. really? I always found it to be quite creepy. The constant obsession with being a "really useful" engine. The shaming of engines who don't toe the line. Victimisation of engines who misbehave. The show makes me strangely uncomfortable for some reason.

Ha, I was just reading a couple of Thomas books to my son the other day and thought, “man, the class politics of Sodor are... really weird.”
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