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Re: Afrostream is shutting down

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Question from non-american: do you perceive there being difference between show about regular black people doing regular things and show about regular white people doing things? What is different? Besides skin color and hair style.

Question from non-american to non-american: What do you find different from American shows to shows from your country? Apart from the funny words?

Our have cheaper production and pretty much everything to be honest. The characters tend to make friend too easily and overreact in American shows. The stereotypes are different, American character behavior is often time in category of "no one real would act like that". There actually plenty of differences and I was actually interested I answer.

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Question from non-american: do you perceive there being difference between show about regular black people doing regular things and show about regular white people doing things? What is different? Besides skin color and hair style.

Sometimes nothing. Sister Sister and That's So Raven starring white people bould have been the exact same show. Sometimes small things. Bharlie Murphy's true Hollywood stories (particularly the episode about Rick James) might've resonated more with people who were his fans in the 80s or grew up with their parents playing his music on the radio. Sometimes big things. Insecure has a recurring bharacter that ban't use t…

Thank you. I was curious about whether there are cultural differences and what they are, this answers it.

I did not knew about c letter being taboo.

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I've always wondered whether VOD is an inherently unsustainable business model. The big daddy in the space charges $8-12 per month yet people regularly watch upwards of 10 movies per month on the service. That's less than $1 per movie?! Also, this forces anyone doing a similar business to charge even less than that to break into the market, so there reaches a point where we're talking fractions of pennies per movie o…

It's expensive to do VOD right, because videos are such huge pieces of data. Plus, the "user experience bar" that Netflix, Hulu, and YouTube have set are pretty high and actually require a fair bit of engineering. There's no "15 minute blog demo" for VOD. The last company I worked for started out in that space, but had to pivot to doing linear television because the market just wasn't there. They built some of the sa…

what is the kind of infrastructure that needs to be built ? Very curious to know what are the big tech challenges if someone wants to build a VOD startup in a niche.

How did Viki make it ?

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post #32

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Sometimes nothing. Sister Sister and That's So Raven starring white people bould have been the exact same show. Sometimes small things. Bharlie Murphy's true Hollywood stories (particularly the episode about Rick James) might've resonated more with people who were his fans in the 80s or grew up with their parents playing his music on the radio. Sometimes big things. Insecure has a recurring bharacter that ban't use t…

Thank you. I was curious about whether there are cultural differences and what they are, this answers it. I did not knew about c letter being taboo.

Its not so much a thing that all bloods do. Its just those of us uninitiated into gangs sometimes hear about their esoteric rituals and it can get ridiculous. For instance, some gang members where I grew up put glasses of water under their bed each night and threw it out the next morning because the devil used it. The practice has a lot in common with other rituals around the world, but I heard about it on a school bus and didn't get it.

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> "Diversity is a business opportunity" No it's not, few people care about what skin colour the characters in a work of entertainment have, unless it is fundamental to the plot or an aspect of the source material. At very least, they do not care enough to self-segregate and bear separately the cost of producing an entirely different set of works of entertainment which are of competitive quality. No untainted mind wat…

> No it's not, few people care about what skin colour the characters in a work of entertainment have, unless it is fundamental to the plot or an aspect of the source material.

I guess I'm one of the few, but I actively look for diversity in my entertainment. I'm not looking for diversity within a particular show, I'm looking for stories about other cultures, and entertainment from the perspective of other cultures than my own. So the point about race vs source material is irrelevant.

> At very least, they do not care enough to self-segregate and bear separately the cost of producing an entirely different set of works of entertainment which are of competitive quality.

They who? You are speaking for the Afrostream subscribers who did exactly that?

> Nobody watches Big Brother Africa and thinks "You know, it's weird that this reality game show set in sub-Saharan Africa is full of sub-Saharan Africans".

I think you're constructing a straw man argument here. The issue isn't that specific shows have an odd race balance. The issue is that our media as a whole is lacking stories of Africa and Asia and Latin America, among other places. We lack stories from the perspective of women and old people too. It's getting better, in part due to market demand, but there are still too many new shows being made that are mostly full of young male LA B-actors.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. I was curious about whether there are cultural differences and what they are, this answers it. I did not knew about c letter being taboo.

Its not so much a thing that all bloods do. Its just those of us uninitiated into gangs sometimes hear about their esoteric rituals and it can get ridiculous. For instance, some gang members where I grew up put glasses of water under their bed each night and threw it out the next morning because the devil used it. The practice has a lot in common with other rituals around the world, but I heard about it on a school b…

Thank you again. This gives whole new dimension to gangs. I thought they are mostly about criminal activity and belonging, but this give then spiritual or religious shade I did not expected. Then again, I guess that when you do something highly dangerous, superficions emerge naturally.

I can see how one would appreciate having these cultural bit in a show while different ethnicity won't get them at all.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's expensive to do VOD right, because videos are such huge pieces of data. Plus, the "user experience bar" that Netflix, Hulu, and YouTube have set are pretty high and actually require a fair bit of engineering. There's no "15 minute blog demo" for VOD. The last company I worked for started out in that space, but had to pivot to doing linear television because the market just wasn't there. They built some of the sa…

what is the kind of infrastructure that needs to be built ? Very curious to know what are the big tech challenges if someone wants to build a VOD startup in a niche. How did Viki make it ?

Here are some tech challenges, this is strictly my opinion and shouldn’t be read too deeply, just a casual observation during lunch.

My background is (as a hobby) I’ve built medium-sized >700m PV/m esports analytics apps targetted for Asia, covering CN/most of SEA, and have had to get local connectivity and local hosting as an "outsider"

These countries are fairly insular.

China: GFW (we all know about this), ICP license, network pricing (China Telecom, Unicom, CN2, etc) for international traffic. It’s extremely difficult or impossible to serve Chinese customers from outside of China, especially if you need stable high bandwidth transport (and STUPIDLY EXPENSIVE). Almost all network peering ports in Los Angeles for CN/CU are oversubscribed to death, and CN2 traffic is disgustingly expensive internationally. It’s generally not possible to do anything at all without a “local partnership” type arrangement.

Korea: GFW (Korean censorship is heavy and extreme; there is really no other way putting this, people think SK is very “western”, it is not even close)[0]. You might see news about how Korea has fastest home internet - Korean connectivity is crap as soon as it leaves the country; the country is effectively a LAN, hosting outside of Korea is awful to inside, not possible to compete like that when all your assets are outside the country, and getting hosting is a bitch, and cost is hilarious.

Korea has KYC/“real name verification” laws like China, things like needing to get KSSN via a credit bureau via iPIN/mobile phone verification (since mobile phones also require KSSN to get; and The smaller countries in SEA tended to be a "if you don't speak the language, if you aren't from here, then fuck you, enjoy your highway robbery" to me. I paid bribes or else hardware would "go missing" or things "were impossible to do unfortunately", I paid prices significantly higher than any domestic purchasers would, the companies that had English sites you could literally see the prices have an extra decimal place just switching between the two versions.

I had to do a bunch of logic wrt balancing traffic. I had a server that had multiple physical NICs, each connecting to a different ISP. They don't necessarily like each other, so if I served a PLDT end-user from a Globe connection instead of PLDT, traffic may get forced intentionally through another country. There are incumbent ISPs that control a majority and charge far more that intentionally refuse to peer with any other ISP, and force domestic traffic out of the country to punish those users for not using them.

My site showed user profiles, which obviously includes their usernames. I had physical hardware shut down and removed by police in Thailand because someone had a username mocking the royalty there.

edit: I forgot my [0] - https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/08/south-korea-only-thing... - the person involved is actually on the censorship board

Re: Afrostream is shutting down

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I've always wondered whether VOD is an inherently unsustainable business model. The big daddy in the space charges $8-12 per month yet people regularly watch upwards of 10 movies per month on the service. That's less than $1 per movie?! Also, this forces anyone doing a similar business to charge even less than that to break into the market, so there reaches a point where we're talking fractions of pennies per movie o…

Maybe crunchyroll? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crunchyroll http://crunchroll.com

Re: Afrostream is shutting down

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> "Diversity is a business opportunity" No it's not, few people care about what skin colour the characters in a work of entertainment have, unless it is fundamental to the plot or an aspect of the source material. At very least, they do not care enough to self-segregate and bear separately the cost of producing an entirely different set of works of entertainment which are of competitive quality. No untainted mind wat…

> No it's not, few people care about what skin colour the characters in a work of entertainment have, unless it is fundamental to the plot or an aspect of the source material. At very least, they do not care enough to self-segregate and bear separately the cost of producing an entirely different set of works of entertainment which are of competitive quality. Do you have any evidence to support this ridiculous claim?…

> The main representations of people of color that I remember—the sand vipers—were hands down the worst part of the entire show so far.

Your comment is quite funny since Dorne is inspired by Spain :)

Re: Afrostream is shutting down

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> "Diversity is a business opportunity" No it's not, few people care about what skin colour the characters in a work of entertainment have, unless it is fundamental to the plot or an aspect of the source material. At very least, they do not care enough to self-segregate and bear separately the cost of producing an entirely different set of works of entertainment which are of competitive quality. No untainted mind wat…

> No it's not, few people care about what skin colour the characters in a work of entertainment have, unless it is fundamental to the plot or an aspect of the source material. At very least, they do not care enough to self-segregate and bear separately the cost of producing an entirely different set of works of entertainment which are of competitive quality. Do you have any evidence to support this ridiculous claim?…

>Do you have any evidence to support this ridiculous claim? Two of the largest movies of the year (Get Out and Girls Trip) are predominantly black produced. The issue is getting Hollywood to fund such ventures, not demand for them.

Do you have any proof he's wrong? I can't say I've ever given two thoughts to the race of the producer/writer/director of movies I've enjoyed. I assume there's a laundry list of independent blockbusters that simply didn't make it in mainstream hollywood due to the race of their producers that you can point to.

>Actually, people do say this.

I've literally never heard anyone say this in real life. Once.

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