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Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by BoorishBears »

aschampion wrote: post #28
chrisco255 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This trend isn't going anywhere. It's efficient from a human resources perspective. It is very expensive to build and maintain products across native desktop (Mac and Windows), mobile (iOS and Android) and web. That's 5 platforms. Web on its own is hard enough with probably 6 or 7 different browser platforms and various screen sizes to accommodate. Electron is a godsend, sub-native performance or not.

> It is very expensive to build and maintain products across native desktop Yet (modulo mobile) somehow companies managed to do this in the 90s with far less productive development tools. The difference is the diluted power of the consumer: when software was a purchased product made for Ks of subscribing customers, small contingents of customers being upset about subpar UI and performance was a real threat to the via…

> modulo mobile

That's cutting out a huge bit of functionality.

> small contingents of customers being upset about subpar UI and performance was a real threat to the viability of your business

Only if there was a better alternative available, there was still plenty of garbage software. If someone made a product like Outlook with the backing that MS can provide, but better performing, everyone would use it. Case in point, G-Mail

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by drinchev »

kitotik wrote: post #22
drinchev wrote: post #11

It actually is an electron app λ /Applications/Trello.app/Contents ◆ tree -L 2 . ├── Frameworks │ ├── Electron\ Framework.framework │ ├── Trello\ Helper\ EH.app │ ├── Trello\ Helper\ NP.app │ └── Trello\ Helper.app ├── Info.plist Tried it. It's a bit laggy and seems not much different than the website itself.

Yeah, extremely disappointed in this. I’ve been a heavy Trello advocate since it launched, but the lack of real native clients puts a pretty low ceiling on it’s usefulness at scale. Atlassian has plenty of native developers on their team, not sure why they would take this route...

I think choosing a hybrid approach is the way to go here.

The implementation with Electron, as most cases, sucks.

I work with a startup and they have a hybrid app, which binary is 3.5 megabytes [1]. UI is JS/HTML/CSS and is almost the same bundle as the web version [2]

Trello's app is 66MB [3]

1: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ninox-database/id901110441?m...

2: https://app.ninoxdb.de

3: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trello/id1278508951?mt=12

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by Brakenshire »

reustle wrote: post #29
simonswords82 wrote: post #25

I live in a web browser day to day. I'm constantly in and out of Teamwork, Harvest, Google Drive, Slack, Google Analytics etc etc. Trello is also a core part of our workflow (we're custom software developers) and so Cmd/Ctrl + T to open a new tab and type in "tre"... to load Trello is basically muscle memory at this point. All of that is to say, what's the need for a "native" app? I say "native" because it's Electron…

I also live in the browser and prefer everything to be in it, but I do know plenty of people who prefer their desktop apps, especially some windows users.

Useful for alt-tab.

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by module0000 »

noir_lord wrote: post #20
chrisco255 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This trend isn't going anywhere. It's efficient from a human resources perspective. It is very expensive to build and maintain products across native desktop (Mac and Windows), mobile (iOS and Android) and web. That's 5 platforms. Web on its own is hard enough with probably 6 or 7 different browser platforms and various screen sizes to accommodate. Electron is a godsend, sub-native performance or not.

Agreed, also it's a case of "good enough but will get better", the more people who use electron the more its performance will improve. I was bearish on it initially but it's starting to prove itself in a way where I'm seriously considering it. Also as a former desktop developer who moved to the web a lot of what it does looks pretty good tbh. That and TypeScript has completely changed my opinion of "client side" web…

>> I was bearish on it initially but it's starting to prove itself

Your inner trader is peeking out... :)

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by neoromantique »

JamesMcMinn wrote: post #8

No Linux version is disappointing, especially considering it's an Electron app. Other than global shortcuts, it doesn't seem to offer much over using the web version as a Chrome app with its own launcher and window.

It actually is just another Electron app.

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by alkonaut »

stevekinney wrote: post #2

I haven't had a chance to download it yet, but my suspicion says it's probably an Electron application. What do you all feel about this practice of taking long-lived web applications and getting them out of a tab and into a desktop shell with a place on the dock/task bar and the ability to Atl/Control-Tab?

Useless. I'd pay for many web apps to bring a snappy native experience, but if an app is slacklike I won't use it even if free.

Maybe I'm missing the key point of a desktop Trello - what does it do that can't be done on a webpage?

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by riquito »

Brakenshire wrote: post #33
reustle wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also live in the browser and prefer everything to be in it, but I do know plenty of people who prefer their desktop apps, especially some windows users.

Useful for alt-tab.

You can just drag out the tab to popup another window to get a working alt-tab flow

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by dangoor »

To all of those saying "why not just use the webapp directly?", a global hotkey to add new items is probably the main thing that caused me to not take Trello seriously as a personal task manager. Being able to instantly collect a new task to get it out of my head and worry about it later is a key feature for me.

This app will do that, so I'll seriously think about Trello again.

Re: Trello Desktop for Mac and Windows: Get More Done Without Distractions

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Post by baldfat »

dangoor wrote: post #39

To all of those saying "why not just use the webapp directly?", a global hotkey to add new items is probably the main thing that caused me to not take Trello seriously as a personal task manager. Being able to instantly collect a new task to get it out of my head and worry about it later is a key feature for me. This app will do that, so I'll seriously think about Trello again.

I made one with Auto Hotkey a while back. Works pretty well for the time. I think if I used headless Chrome I could get it to be even a little better.
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