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This is technological Aikido, the Japanese martial art that can be roughly translated as "the way of harmonious energy". One of its more well-known practitioners wrote a book called 'Aikido in Everyday Life: Giving In to Get Your Way'. This could probably be a case study for the next edition.

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i was on their side until the bit about patenting this. but what does their patent mean? if i deploy this solution for my own games, or make a business deploying it for others, will they come after me?

THey can come after you for licensing. Patents are not a proactical way to Prevent someone from using your technology; they give you a path for getting paid for it.

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When was it filed exactly? I first did this in 2007. And I have to say, I considered it obvious at the time (the difference is I show an ad for my site, rather than generic ads). Do you have a link to the filing?

obvious to hackers = novel to suits :(

Yes, but obvious to hackers = high possibility of prior art

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I can understand the desire to get a monopoly too, as I've pointed out. But I also fail to see how the situation is any different in the rest of the world. Don't let minor differences fool you. This is simply a case of a lack of innovation and therefore they have no edge over their competition. This ridicules the whole concept of software patents. Where they should protect innovation they simply protect the lack ther…

I know that. The problem is that you're assuming that everyone is playing a level headed game with you. I was born and raised in India. Even though I grew up elsewhere inside my head, I've seen stuff that is so far out that I really couldn't believe my eyes. I've seen my father pile money into a black bag for his boss in order to bribe a certain famous politician. Why? Well, they wanted to win the bid for supplying s…

@disguisedcoder I really hope that I didn't come off as a rude jerk or something. I know that it is difficult to understand how much your environment shapes the decisions you need to take in order to survive.

>>>your indian point of viewThat's the problem. I was born here. I've stayed here all my life, but it's like I've grown up elsewhere. Somewhere in my head. Try to understand something I don't represent the average indian view, and neither do I have any feelings of patriotism or stuff like that. I don't get choked up over national flags, parades or holidays. As George Carlin would say they are symbols and I leave symbols to the simple minded.

So, don't take me as a representative of India or anything like that. I just observe and move on. Earlier I used to get fired up, but now I realize; what's the use?

Anyway, thank you for replying.

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I know that. The problem is that you're assuming that everyone is playing a level headed game with you. I was born and raised in India. Even though I grew up elsewhere inside my head, I've seen stuff that is so far out that I really couldn't believe my eyes. I've seen my father pile money into a black bag for his boss in order to bribe a certain famous politician. Why? Well, they wanted to win the bid for supplying s…

@disguisedcoder I really hope that I didn't come off as a rude jerk or something. I know that it is difficult to understand how much your environment shapes the decisions you need to take in order to survive. >>>your indian point of view That's the problem. I was born here. I've stayed here all my life, but it's like I've grown up elsewhere. Somewhere in my head. Try to understand something I don't represent the aver…

Don't worry. :-) It's funny that everything discussed here is globally applicable. I'm not patriotism-crazy either. Your view added at least another insight into the motivation of such a move (patenting).

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@all - Quick points to clarify - my partner and I have 'filed' for patent but not received it yet. The concept is not unique in itself - the auto switch from visible to invisible is. As a fully funded VC company, any patent is value creating - the intention is obviously to use the patent tag to then seriously license the solution to folks like Viacom etc.

if (HOST != MYSERVER) { show_ad(); } This is silly. I congratulate you for writing an interesting blog post and I can understand that one would like to obtain a monopoly if he's found a working business model, yet I consider such a practice to be highly unethical. You are right in thinking that you deserve to reap the benefits after you've found a solution to that problem. You truly do. But you're wrong in drawing th…

It's a bit more complicated than a simple formula, but certainly more productive than serving "cease and desist" orders when it comes to protecting IP.

We're a start-up, and we aim to innovate and build value. If we do patents, the objective is not to monopolize but more like an old Arab saying, "Trust in God, but tie up your camel".

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"if Virgin Music and EMI etc., would have bought Napster (instead of suing it and closing it down) and then converted the site into their official mp3 website, iTunes would have been a me-too and not the gorilla it is today" This part is interesting. Not so because of the concrete actors mentioned, but overall. It raises the question about the way the whole film/game/music industry battles piracy. Do You think they t…

The "music industry" got screwed on like 4 fronts at once. Actual piracy hurt, but the move from $20 CDs to $1 singles killed the "2-4 singles and 6-10 fillers" album model (now you're getting $2 for something you could have gotten $20 for, and sales didn't quintuple), falling production costs made Label Loan Sharking less attractive, and a rise of new distribution venues (MySpace and YouTube, where recorded music is a loss-leader for merch and concert sales) weakened their distribution monopoly.

They could probably survive or solve any one of those problems, but there's no way to survive all four.

The film industry has to wrangle with piracy, but there's still a large entry barrier to make something that looks like it has high production values. Similarly, there are fewer new distribution options, because there's no real "films as a loss leader" business model. They are picking up the pace of innovation with stuff like HD and 3D and 2K/4K precisely so that they can move the goal-posts on production/distribution upstarts. You can throw together a simple romantic comedy with few locations and no special effects for a few hundred thousand, but a HighDef 3-D adventure with city-bending CGI and special effects is gonna set you back piles of money.

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