Particularly relevant now that the Australian Federal Government has come out and said that "the cost of Government IT has jumped to nearly $10 billion.": http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-28/federal-governments-$1.... And you wonder why?
When an experiment with existing technology does a “good enough” job
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#32How did you get to the number 220 of vehicles?
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#33> Although, the solution would occasionally have issues with particular letters. A mistake like this can and has destroyed lives. http://thisiscriminal.com/episode-18-695bgk/ > Police officer John Edwards was patrolling a quiet neighborhood in Bellaire, Texas when he saw an SUV driven by two young African-American men. It was just before 2am on December 31, 2008. Edwards followed the SUV and ran the license plate num…
"Tuttle? His name's Buttle. There must be some mistake."
"Mistake? Ha ha, we don't make mistakes."
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're very right. At a quick glance, this thing is going to need power, probably from the car battery. You don't want it to catch fire and kill the occupants, so there's going to be R&D in power supplies, material etc, along with regulation and testing.
Emergency services vehicles run so much equipment they have isolated power from engine power.
I have noticed here in California the the police always leave their patrol cars running when parked. I was entering a restaurant a saw a patrol car running. I saw the officer inside and asked him why they leave the cars running. I asked him if was to be ready to take off fast.
He laughed and said that there is so much electronics inside that the battery would run down during lunch.
I didn't think to ask why they didn't turn off the electronics. I also didn't ask what they do at the end of the day.
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#35This is fantastic!
I honestly believe it is examples like this that clearly show how quickly the world is changing, and how massive organizations are a thing of the past.
You don't need thousands of employees and $86M, you need a couple of smart people and a weekend.
Uber and Air BnB have to some degree done this already, I have no doubt the exact same thing will happen in health, education, transportation and many, many other aspects of our lives.
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#36Imagine a passive system scanning fellow motorists for an abductors car that automatically alerts authorities and family members to their current location and direction. That's the same argument that police departments use "Well we'll only use it to capture child abductors and stolen cars and stuff". But the truth is that there just aren't that many real child abductors out there (especially with known license plates…
Oh dear. That's so creepy someone might actually do it! I'm getting into home automation at the moment, so a use case that I think I deleted from the article was just letting you know that your mum or someone had pulled up in the driveway. License plates vs. a known list of visitors. Or as is happening here in some of our suburbs, "Alert: A group of 4 men have arrived in a stolen V8 Commodore"
The FBI basically did this where they amassed hearsay about the important people in groups they didn't like then mailed anonymous letters to their partners, friends, family, etc. The term you should Google is "cointelpro".
IIRC recently there was a city in CA that mailed everyone who drove down a certain street a letter in an obvious colored envelope saying "Dear, Whoever, consider yourself informed that prostitutes go here, kthanksbye". This is a public road that people drive down to get from A to B.
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#37Imagine a passive system scanning fellow motorists for an abductors car that automatically alerts authorities and family members to their current location and direction. That's the same argument that police departments use "Well we'll only use it to capture child abductors and stolen cars and stuff". But the truth is that there just aren't that many real child abductors out there (especially with known license plates…
Oh dear. That's so creepy someone might actually do it! I'm getting into home automation at the moment, so a use case that I think I deleted from the article was just letting you know that your mum or someone had pulled up in the driveway. License plates vs. a known list of visitors. Or as is happening here in some of our suburbs, "Alert: A group of 4 men have arrived in a stolen V8 Commodore"
> That's so creepy someone might actually do it!
It's only creepy if it's done on a targeted, individual basis, which it won't be.
As it is - in many countries you legally have no expectation of privacy in a public place, so I have no problem with en-masse ANPR. If the police eventually develops a very dense sensor network that can track every car's movement across every intersection then there would be too much information recorded for me to personally worry about it - and I still believe it would help with crime in general. The usual reactionary bullet-points based around the usual bogey-men of terrorists and child-abduction are weak and I think distract from more meaningful and impactful, but sedate arguments: e.g. it would reduce the need for inherently-dangerous hot pursuits to follow a vehicle as the cameras would do that anyway. Uninsured vehicles could be identified immediately before they get stopped for a broken taillight or involved in a collision. And cynically: APR systems could be used to compute a car's average-speed between points to determine if the car broke the speed limit).
I don't feel mass ANPR is comparable to other bulk-surveillance schemes like Internet snooping, because I believe that we do have an expectation of privacy regarding what goes through our home connections, and acting on Internet surveillance is inherently subjective - whereas ANPR can indicate if a car is known to be stolen or uninsured, that's not something that's open to interpretation.
Re: When an experiment with existing technology does a “good enough” job
#38You could now integrate auto gun aiming on the felon and give them 20 seconds to comply.
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#39> Although, the solution would occasionally have issues with particular letters. A mistake like this can and has destroyed lives. http://thisiscriminal.com/episode-18-695bgk/ > Police officer John Edwards was patrolling a quiet neighborhood in Bellaire, Texas when he saw an SUV driven by two young African-American men. It was just before 2am on December 31, 2008. Edwards followed the SUV and ran the license plate num…
This sort of thing doesn't really happen in Aus. I could see someone getting arrested and spending a night in jail unnecessarily or maaaaaaybe tased (and to be clear, whether we consider this a fair price to pay is a different question), but police rarely shoot people here.
Yes it does.
Just the other day the trigger happy cops shot a couple of people at a swingers party.
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#40Author here, hi HN/Reddit. I had hoped I'd made it clear enough, but by no means am I recommending something I cobbled together in an hour on the couch be rolled out as a competitor to BlueNet. I mean shit, I'm web scraping their database and using compressed footage from cheap dashcams. The algorithm is also untrained. I was, on the other hand, hoping to promote healthy discussion and pose some good questions relate…
I worked in government once and could not believe the cost required to get what I saw as small projects done.
In the end I understood, when I came to understand, as other in this thread have pointed out, that there's support, rollout, training, documentation, project management, planning and it goes on and on. The technical solution can be just a small company of providing a sustainable solution to an organization.
Having said that, you should be packing this up and selling it.