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New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

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Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing it will optimize for dedicated bike paths since you shouldn't be riding your bike on the sidewalk.

If we added bike lanes to sidewalks rather than roads I think it would solve a lot of the complaints motorists have.

That's how it is in Berlin. I'm surprised people think it is so weird.

Bikes are more like pedestrians than like cars.

Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

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Is there any way to see a demo of this algorithm for a route of the user's choosing? I'm not familiar enough with San Francisco to evaluate the improvement mentioned in the blog. If I could try some routes in Atlanta, however, I'd get a better sense.

I was wondering the same thing. The screenshots in the article would be more helpful if they were zoomed a little closer, at least enough to show all the street names being mentioned. A topo or shaded relief map would also help. I'm glad people are working on this. The bike directions on Google maps aren't very good, IMO

Anything that can help make safer/more comfortable cycle routing is great step forward. Cycle routing is definitely more complex that driving because of the issue the article mentions.

I tried this out. My city is pretty notorious for having incomplete cycling infrastructure. i.e.) you get local areas that have cycle routes, but you often have to brave some craziness to get anywhere for real.

For my most common routes, it seems to be making the same choices as Google Maps. They definitely aren't the most optimal or comfortable choices, though I suspect this is at least partially a data problem. Steep grades, stairs, and difficult to find turns (more my city's fault that anything) are on the route, and it takes you though the straightforward but less safe connectors instead of detouring through neighbourhoods.

Perhaps one more tuning parameter is needed that would allow weighting stress vs distance?

Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

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post #3

If use_roads is set to zero, will this optimize for roads that include sidewalks?

Hi! I'm with Mapzen. Setting `use_roads` to zero means a preference for using roads tagged in OpenStreetMap that have bike infrastructure, as opposed to roads without bike lanes.

We don't route on sidewalks, and will avoid paths that are tagged `bicycle=no`. You can get a sense of these on our bike map. https://mapzen.com/bikes/

Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

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Is there a bike routing product that uses this new api that I can use? I spend hours finding the "less stressfull" bike routes. I like hills but I really value safety.

OpenStreetMap in Mapzen (bicycle) mode. Unfortunately the routes aren't great, at least for my area of Seattle.

Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

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I love the concept. I would love to have anentry point to cost function with the following parameters:

- traffic - elevation gain - type of street - a way to represent the distance overhead compare the other segments.

Any framework / dev env where I could easily get that entry point and see the top results on a map?

Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

#37

I love the concept. I would love to have anentry point to cost function with the following parameters: - traffic - elevation gain - type of street - a way to represent the distance overhead compare the other segments. Any framework / dev env where I could easily get that entry point and see the top results on a map?

Yes -- at the bottom of the post we show how you can use our mapzen.js library to draw routes on a map. If you know Leaflet it's relatively straightforward.

Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

#38

Riding an ebike has dramatically changed the routes I take when commuting because I now prioritize safety and enjoyment over pure efficiency or avoiding inclines. My commute is 25 minutes on an ebike vs 70 on a regular bike, or 30 in a car in traffic.

Can I ask what ebike you use?

Re: New and improved bike routing, with low stress options

#39

Is there any way to see a demo of this algorithm for a route of the user's choosing? I'm not familiar enough with San Francisco to evaluate the improvement mentioned in the blog. If I could try some routes in Atlanta, however, I'd get a better sense.

I was wondering the same thing. The screenshots in the article would be more helpful if they were zoomed a little closer, at least enough to show all the street names being mentioned. A topo or shaded relief map would also help. I'm glad people are working on this. The bike directions on Google maps aren't very good, IMO

>I'm glad people are working on this. The bike directions on Google maps aren't very good, IMO

I agree, but they are certainly better than nothing. There are so many times I have wished for a real-time, traffic sensitive routing feature on Google Maps when it comes to bikes.This usually happens around rush hour when I am pinned up against the shoulder trying to take the lane and being cursed and buzzed repeatedly.

I am also really glad people are working on this, it is really cool and so full of potential.

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