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A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

#31

So by giving them a $10k carrot they can basically lock them in to the company because it would be much more difficult to interview for competitors or even start startups. That's pretty genius.

The reason is probably super inflated salaries in bay area due to high cost of living.

Lock in has probably less to do with this than pure money aspect.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

#32

Move to Washington State. Don't pay California income tax. Instant 8% boost to your take-home pay.

But I don't want to work for Amazon or Microsoft or at Google's satellite office.

It's almost as if you believe there are only 3 tech companies in Seattle.

Heck, those 3 aren't even the only big tech companies in Seattle, there's Apple, Facebook, Oracle, Twitter, etc. etc. let alone all the other smaller ones. There's more tech companies here than you can shake a stick at.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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post #16

Move to Washington State. Don't pay California income tax. Instant 8% boost to your take-home pay.

And if you're one of those people that really hate taxes, live in Vancouver, WA and buy everything in Portland.

Hope you love bridges. And waiting.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

#34

Move to Washington State. Don't pay California income tax. Instant 8% boost to your take-home pay.

But I don't want to work for Amazon or Microsoft or at Google's satellite office.

There's a ton of companies here that will hire you if you have the right experience.

If you're a new grad, however, expect to be out of work for a bit.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

#36

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Denver is even better—competitive wages w/ washington & lower cost of living.

There's a fire-hose of Californians directed at CO. In a decade or two they will have recreated the place they left.

It's already happened. Colorado politics has already moved sufficiently from libertarian to leftist that I would no longer consider moving there.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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post #31

So by giving them a $10k carrot they can basically lock them in to the company because it would be much more difficult to interview for competitors or even start startups. That's pretty genius.

The reason is probably super inflated salaries in bay area due to high cost of living. Lock in has probably less to do with this than pure money aspect.

the salaries are not due to cost of living, they are due to a competetive labor market.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

#38
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"was if you're in the Bay Area and you take a job with Zapier we'll pay $10,000 to help you relocate to anywhere, or as we call it, de-locate." ..so this is just a one time re-location "bonus"? I think many large companies "pay you" something close to this amount to re-locate to the bay area. This really doesn't help that much. What would be better is to pay bay area salaries/rates in another part of the country that…

$10k is usually the signing bonus I get for just changing companies. Is this in addition to the signing bonus?

Yes it is separate. At Amazon the signing bonus you owe if you leave within one year but the relocation bonus you owe if you leave within two; both are prorated

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Denver is even better—competitive wages w/ washington & lower cost of living.

There's a fire-hose of Californians directed at CO. In a decade or two they will have recreated the place they left.

Strange, byzantine policies, too.

Re: A CEO Who Pays Employees to De-Locate from the Bay

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> And the concentration of tech talent means that it's always easy to find a new job, or even to start your own company. I've never been there, but I see this echoed a lot. Is it actually true? I'm interested in both, but I'm wary of the exaggeration that may be "it's easy".

Starting a company is always unbelievably difficult, but the Bay Area's density makes things a little easier. I used to live in an apartment on 55 9th St, San Francisco. The guy in the apartment across the hall also started a company at the same time as me. He introduced me to other founder friends in the apartment building. The lobby has a coffee shop where I've made other founder, angel, and VC friends. And I haven…

I'm in the process of starting a company.

Three people I know have made (very early, very tentative) investment offers. A former VPE has offered to be an advisor, and has introduced me to a really good salesperson.

That sort of thing is really limited to places where people understand saas businesses, have the appropriate risk appetite, and have previously earned enough disposable cash to take real risks.

Another aspect is simply institutionalizing the idea that starting a business may not be stupid. This helps when you're trying to talk SOs onboard into taking huge pay cuts.

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