The sad part is that business will go on but now the lobbyists will do the advising again.
Lobbyists act on behalf of business, how is this any different?
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#32The sad part is that business will go on but now the lobbyists will do the advising again.
The lobbyists never stopped advising. In fact his administration is filled with former lobbyists that are now on the executive branch's payroll. That's one way to drain the swamp.
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#33The weird part is they arent doing it for political reasons, this is to protect the image of their corporation. But we havent been told that. There is so much obfuscation of the truth in politics, I am constantly amazed and dismayed at the same time.
I am willing to entertain the idea that the ceos of large corporations are also decent human beings.
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#34Matt Levine says it best: "[..] but I have to confess that it seems odd to me to denounce Nazism out of fealty to shareholder value. You can just denounce Nazism because you're not a Nazi! This is a financial newsletter, but I have never assumed that the operations of capital are autonomous and self-executing, or that executives are robots who are programmed to maximize shareholder value to the exclusion of all other…
> I have never assumed that the operations of capital are autonomous and self-executing, or that executives are robots who are programmed to maximize shareholder value to the exclusion of all other considerations. But that is how it works, right? If you don't maximize shareholder value you can be ousted, if you don't where others do you will lose in the marketplace and cease to exist. Isn't that competitive ruthlessn…
But that is how it works, right? If you don't maximize shareholder value you can be ousted
Depends on what you mean by "maximize," since "shareholder value" is a matter of opinion. Some might make the case for short-term rises at all costs, while others take a longer view of "value." In between are a lot of experts and self-proclaimed experts.
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It was already clear that nothing of substance is going to come out of the NAFTA talks, both because nobody in business or agriculture wants it ( http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/15/trump-win-nafta-tal... ) and because nobody is impressed by Trump anymore: just like the rest of the world, Canada and Mexico have figured out that he's all bluster and folds like a cheap tent as soon as you say "No".
It was already clear that nothing of substance...was going to come out of this entire 4 year term... I think you meant to say..
They will lower taxes mainly for upper incomes and produce huge deficits. They will have made the US health system even worse. Another achievement will be winding back a lot of environmental rules.
So I think they are on track with their real goals. Helping the American worker was never a serious goal.
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Pretty sure that's part of it, but I'm also sure most of these people/ceo's are definitely not closet Nazi's and they definitely don't want another Hitler to rise in America as that would definitely be bad for business...
In what ways has Trump done anything similar to Hitler?
By putting people in 'groups' and having those who support him also enforce this idea that we're all in separate groups and need to look out for own little group--this is how fascism grows, this is how hitler took over Germany, this is how a new Hitler figure could take over America too... It's not outside the realm of possibility sure Germans in 1900 couldn't forsee the horrors of 1940.
Here's a good video from 1947 explaining the whole thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23X14HS4gLk
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It was already clear that nothing of substance...was going to come out of this entire 4 year term... I think you meant to say..
Only if we're lucky. Repealing obamacare without a replacement came within a single vote.
With the uncertainty they have spread and the refusal to work on Obamacare problems they are on track of making it fail even without repealing.
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Only if we're lucky. Repealing obamacare without a replacement came within a single vote.
With the uncertainty they have spread and the refusal to work on Obamacare problems they are on track of making it fail even without repealing.
The public exchanges may not have any affordable policies or even any policies at all available at some point.
The ACA is a lot more than just the public exchanges.
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Only if we're lucky. Repealing obamacare without a replacement came within a single vote.
True, but that carried a lot of Republican support and was not just a Trump initiative.
Yeah, the congress and senate might actually accomplish something (for good or evil), but the president is just a side show to keep people distracted and drum up ad revenue for news companies (and I use the term loosely).
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Attacked the media and placed almost all the blame for American hardships on immigrants?
If you're suggesting that Hitler also placed all of the blame on immigrants, you must mistakenly believe that the Jewish people were immigrants to Germany and Nazi-occupied Europe. This was not the case. The Jewish victims of the Holocaust were targeted for being Jewish, not because they hadn't been born within certain borders.
Trump's attacks on both Muslims and Hispanics have not been restricted to immigrants (though in the latter case the attack on non-immigrants has been based on their presumed alignment with immigrants of the same ethnicity.) Like Hitler's attacks on, among others, Jews they are treated as alien others even when not immigrants.