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California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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Just so we don't go over the same thing again, Khosla's unique claim is that the title to the land derives from a land grant from before California was a state, with which he justifies disregarding the CCC. A year after the case was filed, however, a San Mateo County Superior Court judge dealt Friends of Martin’s Beach a setback, ruling there was no right of access. He said the property was subject to the 1848 Treaty…

What a pathetic creature really

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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I am surprised more states do not have laws like Hawaii's where you are required to provide beach access. Shame for such a nice beach to go to waste.

They do. But if you can drag out litigation & appeals in the courts for a decade or three, viola, private beach.

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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I am surprised more states do not have laws like Hawaii's where you are required to provide beach access. Shame for such a nice beach to go to waste.

They do. He ignores and contravenes them.

Why isn't he thrown in jail, or why isn't the fence bulldozed down? Where I currently live (a somewhat well-off area), bulldozers (and self-entitled assholes) are a common occurrence.

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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Why is a beach up for sale if it's not up for private gating? (Why doesn't California declare its coastline public property that is not-for-sale?) edit: Just found out the answer. Beaches themselves are never for sale, even though properties right up to the edge of the beach are. Next question: Are all river banks public property too? Can you not build a manufacturing plant at a river bank? What about lakes? Are lake…

Many places consider the land below the high-water line of navigable waterways to be public (in midwest US at least). So if you're canoeing down the river and eat lunch on the bank, you're generally not trespassing. Smaller lakes are generally not considered navigable, though I'm not sure how it works for huge lakes like Michigan. I suspect a similar 'high-water' line is relevant. You'd truly be pretty dense if you w…

This holds true in most of the west as well and provides access for river paddlers/floaters/fishermen.

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could make it more than just a fight over coastal access. You could make it so that he has more at stake than just this case. He publishes a list of companies his firm has a financial interest in: http://www.khoslaventures.com/portfolio/all-companies If people truly care about this issue, they can organize public campaigns against those companies as a message to founders to avoid his money or face consequences. H…

That kind of scorched earth tactic is simply inhumane, regardless of the target.

How is it inhumane?

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why stop there? As a rich man, he should be able to replace his failing liver by claiming yours. Alas, he can't in either case, because we the people have created limiting the unchecked exercise of power.

I know sarcasm is hard to nail down on the internet, but I thought that one was pretty clear.

You'd think so but I've met people who havr, in total seriousness, stated that a dollar of their money was worth more than 10,000 human lives and they shouldn't have to pay any taxes to help out other citizens. Some people truly believe that if you have more money, you are a better person

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That kind of scorched earth tactic is simply inhumane, regardless of the target.

How is it inhumane?

It's barbaric overkill. It affects other parties far more than the target. It's emblematic of a vicious vindictiveness that is unbecoming of members of a cohesive society. It's simply disgusting to dig into unrelated matters over a relatively petty dispute. It shows no sense of proportionality, charity, or kindness. It is ultimately counterproductive to the creation of the kind of world we all ought to be creating for our mutual benefit.

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it inhumane?

It's barbaric overkill. It affects other parties far more than the target. It's emblematic of a vicious vindictiveness that is unbecoming of members of a cohesive society. It's simply disgusting to dig into unrelated matters over a relatively petty dispute. It shows no sense of proportionality, charity, or kindness. It is ultimately counterproductive to the creation of the kind of world we all ought to be creating fo…

It's clear from downvotes and lack of replies that some parts of this community have a long way to go before deserving the moral high ground the community tries to claim.

There is no justice in mob justice.

Re: California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They do. He ignores and contravenes them.

Why isn't he thrown in jail, or why isn't the fence bulldozed down? Where I currently live (a somewhat well-off area), bulldozers (and self-entitled assholes) are a common occurrence.

I wonder if the property is on his name, or some shelter company.
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