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Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by ardit33 »

sliken wrote: post #27
booop wrote: post #17

No comments on the interiors? It looks more befitting in a prototype than a $36,000+ car.

Never really understood the "luxury" interiors with huge number of details, materials, mixes of leathers, wood, different kinda of metal, etc. The interior that stood out to me was porsche 911 from around 1970. Not distracting, simple, robust, and lasts 30 years (when I saw it). A larger display for excellent situational awareness (map, gps, dozen or so cameras, ultrasonic, and radar). What were you hoping for? A few…

Touch screens are terrible to use while driving, especially for frequent operations (volume, change stations, climate control, hazard lights, wipers, etc). The current trend is to push more into these touch interfaces, but most car manufactures have still left some of the more important ones as physical buttons.

For tesla the matter is not ergonomics, but simply cost.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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sliken wrote: post #27
booop wrote: post #17

No comments on the interiors? It looks more befitting in a prototype than a $36,000+ car.

Never really understood the "luxury" interiors with huge number of details, materials, mixes of leathers, wood, different kinda of metal, etc. The interior that stood out to me was porsche 911 from around 1970. Not distracting, simple, robust, and lasts 30 years (when I saw it). A larger display for excellent situational awareness (map, gps, dozen or so cameras, ultrasonic, and radar). What were you hoping for? A few…

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Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by sliken »

biehl wrote: post #29
olex wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brake fluid needs to replaced eventually, same as in ICE cars. But that's only once in several years. No oil, no transmission fluid. And yeah, you need to refill windshield washer fluid every once in a while too :) Other than that, since there are much fewer moving parts, there is much less regular maintenance necessary. Brake pads and discs survive much longer thanks to regenerative braking.

It has electric brakes, right?

It has regen, which is basically energy capture via electric brakes. But it also has regular breaks, most drivers don't use them much so they last a really long time.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by [deleted] »

headmelted wrote: post #26

I'm certain if I ever own a Tesla, it'll be a long way into the future. I'm glad they keep pushing forward though, it's causing the infrastructure to advance to a point where I'm almost ready to go fully EV. Where I am, a low-mileage (20-30k) 3-5 year old Nissan Leaf is the equivalent of around $12k with no road tax to pay. And it gets around 150mpg equivalent due to electricity prices. Exciting times!

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Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by chronic8k »

hypersoar wrote: post #11
threeseed wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see this happening. Look at computers or the home CE market. We've moved away from buying something once and then upgrading it over a period of time. Instead consumers are attracted to new devices, with more features and most importantly a refreshed design. When you have plastics that age, seats that wear and parts that fail people are always going to want to buy a new car instead of adding new features to an…

Buying a new $700 phone every couple years is a very different thing from buying a new $40,000 car because you can't get it fixed.

> Buying a new $700 phone every couple years is a very different thing from buying a new $40,000 car because you can't get it fixed.

Isn't that what they said about the iPhone when it was first released? Perhaps your income level is less than the target market segment for the Tesla Model 3.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by randyrand »

mack1001 wrote: post #3

If everything goes right, Model 3 can change the business model of cars. Shift to value add + functionality upgrade based pricing versus a sales and service oriented model.

Also they own the repair market. You can't get your tesla serviced at a normal shop as the software, parts, and diagnostics are proprietary, so they could actually sell the car at a loss and make the big bucks on repairs.

I don't want this. But its a viable business model.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by booop »

sliken wrote: post #27
booop wrote: post #17

No comments on the interiors? It looks more befitting in a prototype than a $36,000+ car.

Never really understood the "luxury" interiors with huge number of details, materials, mixes of leathers, wood, different kinda of metal, etc. The interior that stood out to me was porsche 911 from around 1970. Not distracting, simple, robust, and lasts 30 years (when I saw it). A larger display for excellent situational awareness (map, gps, dozen or so cameras, ultrasonic, and radar). What were you hoping for? A few…

It might be great functionally, but it looks like there's no design or aesthetics at all - kind of like an iphone made with matte plastic and without rounded corners.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by pentae »

anjc wrote: post #28

I'm sure it's a great car in person, but from a casual observer's perspective, the dash looks like they upcycled the trim from a 70s car/station wagon/boat by sticking a shitty Android tablet onto it. It reminds me of something they'd whip up on Mythbusters to remotely drive off a cliff, under tight budget constraints.

This statement seems unnecessarily harsh. To me it looks like a next generation interior that can be customised with software to support autonomous driving for non-owners of the vehicle.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by _ph_ »

Animats wrote: post #14

Nice, but $59,500 as shown. Not $35,000. The real-world price has crept up. The base model has a small battery. The Tesla Model S starts at $68,000. So the real-world price is down only 13% from the Model S.

The "small battery" still has more range than any other electric car out there, except the Bolt, which has a very small lead, but does not seem to be made in large numbers. And it matches the promised range (>215 miles). So it is great value for everyone, who does not need the 300 mile range. So you do get a sporty (0-60 <6s) 5 seated electrical sedan for 35k, which is great.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Post by _ph_ »

ardit33 wrote: post #31
sliken wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never really understood the "luxury" interiors with huge number of details, materials, mixes of leathers, wood, different kinda of metal, etc. The interior that stood out to me was porsche 911 from around 1970. Not distracting, simple, robust, and lasts 30 years (when I saw it). A larger display for excellent situational awareness (map, gps, dozen or so cameras, ultrasonic, and radar). What were you hoping for? A few…

Touch screens are terrible to use while driving, especially for frequent operations (volume, change stations, climate control, hazard lights, wipers, etc). The current trend is to push more into these touch interfaces, but most car manufactures have still left some of the more important ones as physical buttons. For tesla the matter is not ergonomics, but simply cost.

Thats why you have the two scroll-wheel knobs on the steering wheel. You select a function and then you can adjust them with a physical control while driving.
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