I cannot find the flag in about:config - my version is "56.0a1 (2017-07-23) (64-bit)", so it should be in there, no?
I have the flag in my about:config with build `56.0a1 (2017-07-25) (64-bit)` under Linux. You're SO two days ago! Update your Nightly :)
Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
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Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
#32What parts of Servo are already in Firefox? What is missing? Is there a list of what will get into Firefox over time?
Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem with in its current state as a WebKit alternative is that it lacks stable api. We don't see any gecko based apps like we see WebKit based apps (electron, etc) because gecko is so tightly developed around Firefox.
I remember way before Electron there was XULRunner, and there were a few ridiculously bloated non-Mozilla apps that were based on it. Like Songbird[1] -- anyone remember that? I suppose the idea was largely ahead of its time; in 2006 computers just didn't have enough RAM/CPU to get away with running a full web browser stack for every app like we (sort of) can today. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songbird_(softwa…
Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
#34Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
#35Very cool. What parts of Servo are already in Firefox? What is missing? Is there a list of what will get into Firefox over time?
Currently Quantum CSS (Stylo) and Quantum Render (Webrender) are both in Firefox Nightly, but they are unstable and can cause really bad performance, especially Quantum Render. They won't be done until at least Firefox 57 and some most likely later.
Quantum Compositor is in Release already I believe. It's the out of process compositor for Firefox.
Changes from Quantum Flow are continuing to be implemented into Nightly and later on Beta.
I haven't ready much about the progress around Quantum DOM, and I have no idea for which release it is targeted.
Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
#36When will this be incorporated in Firefox Mainstream release ?
Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
#37Very cool. What parts of Servo are already in Firefox? What is missing? Is there a list of what will get into Firefox over time?
There is a wiki page about Project Quantum: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum Currently Quantum CSS (Stylo) and Quantum Render (Webrender) are both in Firefox Nightly, but they are unstable and can cause really bad performance, especially Quantum Render. They won't be done until at least Firefox 57 and some most likely later. Quantum Compositor is in Release already I believe. It's the out of process compositor for Fi…
Servo is the experimental browser (engine?)?
Quantum is the project that ports parts of Servo to Firefox over time?
Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
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Back then I was a big fan of the concept and I really enjoyed songbird. I still think that building a html+javascript package, and have the default browser run it chromeless with some expanded privileges (or near chromeless) is a great approach for cross-platform apps, sadly it doesn't seem like anyone is working seriously on such an approach.
> I still think [it] is a great approach for cross-platform apps You think so? I find that running a whole second OS for every process is hugely bloated and slow, and that we can do much, much better when there are already very good languages that run cross-platformly, they just need bindings to a good cross-platform UI toolkit. Unfortunately, nothing looks as good on OS X as Cocoa does.
Look at R studio. Wonderful IDE, runs as a safari app. Having a whole extra browser and a node backend running for each app seems a waste, but using the browser that is already running as a runtime environment seems much saner.
I do most of my work in the browser, I wouldn't mind if some of that had better integrated UI.
I also wouldn't mind writing small, easy to produce apps that will work across systems.
Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a wiki page about Project Quantum: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum Currently Quantum CSS (Stylo) and Quantum Render (Webrender) are both in Firefox Nightly, but they are unstable and can cause really bad performance, especially Quantum Render. They won't be done until at least Firefox 57 and some most likely later. Quantum Compositor is in Release already I believe. It's the out of process compositor for Fi…
Do I get this right. Servo is the experimental browser (engine?)? Quantum is the project that ports parts of Servo to Firefox over time?
Re: Stylo shipping in Firefox Nightly
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I have the flag in my about:config with build `56.0a1 (2017-07-25) (64-bit)` under Linux. You're SO two days ago! Update your Nightly :)
Hmm, I got it through `ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa` on Ubuntu, so this is generally a couple days behind? Did you download it manually?
- You could switch to that too (I run it even on my job Ubuntu machine, never saw any benefit to using the official Ubuntu PPA apart from proper packaging, which I don't care about, this Firefox lives in /opt/firefox and that's okay with me, and getting updates are a matter of hitting Help -> About, easy).
- Or just wait a few days for the PPA to serve a fresher build. EDIT forget about this and read bzbarsky's answer above. Thanks, Boris :)