Live data from Hacker News

Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

microsoft.com

31–40 of 93 posts

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#31

Any idea who makes it? It's probably close in architecture to GPUs, the kind of thing Nvidia and AMD are positioned to capitalise on.

They used customizable DSPs from Tensilica. I wonder if this is based on the same technology.

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#32

Any idea who makes it? It's probably close in architecture to GPUs, the kind of thing Nvidia and AMD are positioned to capitalise on.

I'm guessing it's close to the tpu design, ie a systolic matrix multiplier.

Other possible candidates include INT8 DSPs

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#33

Any idea who makes it? It's probably close in architecture to GPUs, the kind of thing Nvidia and AMD are positioned to capitalise on.

Altera, an Intel subsidiary. [1]

1. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-24/quest-for...

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#34
Side note in case anyone at MS happens to read this, but the only actual content on this page that appears above the fold for me (viewing on a Surface Pro 4) is the headline, which is pushed nearly to the bottom of my display by all the headers/nav/whitespace. This strikes me as remarkably bad design.

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#35
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HoloLen hardware can be purchased here https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens/buy

Hardly the device for my kids to play Minecraft on like MS hyped. Starting to feel like another Kinect - the preview movie was amazing, the actually shipped one, meh.

Wasn't it introduced at build, the developer conference? I imagine that should have given a good indicator as to their initial target market while use cases are built up for production versions. The Mixed Reality headsets seem to be in the same vain, an opportunity to start introducing that tech to developers at a lower price point.

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#36
post #27
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We got a couple at my company and I've built some protoypes for it, and threw up a little blog for it. The cool thing is the HoloToolkit which seems to be maintained by some xbox developers, and scripts all the functionality you need to get off the ground. The hard part has been coming up with prototypes that go beyond a cool experience, and solve some customer's problem. It doesn't recognize what it's looking at, as…

What is it about the beta Skype app that is so compelling?

Here is my explanation:

The Skype call will use the forward facing camera of the Hololens user. For the Hololens user the view of who you are calling will be presented in front of you as you move around. Also, people on the Skype call can interact and draw on objects in front of you.

See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/hololens/apps/skype.

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#38
post #10

Serious question: what is an AI coprocessor technically? Some machine learnt models burned on a chip? Or some kind of a neural net with updatable weights?

The AI coprocessor is probably the first processor designed directly by the marketing department...

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#39
post #10

Serious question: what is an AI coprocessor technically? Some machine learnt models burned on a chip? Or some kind of a neural net with updatable weights?

According to the linked article, this coprocessor seems particularly focused on Deep Neural Networks (DNN), so it does sound like a updatable weight neural network evaluator.

Re: Second version of HoloLens HPU will incorporate AI coprocessor

#40
post #13
post #2

Is it time to recognize that "AI" is the meaningless buzzword of 2017? "Nothing is cooler because it is cyber." -- J.D. Falk, RIP.

How is AI meaningless? I mean, I guess the term can be seen as silly, but I mentally map it to "statistical computing." [edit] Since I'm getting down votes, can someone clarify? I wasn't being contrarian with the above comment. Is my mental map of what AI means as an industry term incorrect?

I think you've hit it on the head. 'AI' computations are a variety of mathematical and statistical techniques, which on their own are varied and interesting but it doesnt suggest a fundamental difference in hardware over general purpose computing. GPUs provide distinct advatages for some kinds of operations, but its not well defined that "AI" has its own set of computations for which hardware can be custom built for, and be distinguishable from existing kinds of CPU hardware.
Post reply on HN