Microsoft/.Net Foundation added telemetry to the dotnet command line last year

Post by pjmlp » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 11:03 AM UTC

bjpbakker wrote: post #21

orf wrote: post #3

For reference, they collect[1]: The command being used (for example, "build", "restore") The ExitCode of the command For test projects, the test runner being used The timestamp of invocation The framework used Whether runtime IDs are present in the "runtimes" node The CLI version being used I'm actually OK with this to be honest. Here is the telemetry code itself: https://github.com/dotnet/cli/blob/5a37290f24aba5d35f…

> For reference, they collect That's not all that matters. IMO the real decision is: do you /trust/ MS ? Do you trust that they anonymize collected data and that they won't secretly change collected data? Do you trust future MS with that information. > I'm actually OK with this to be honest That's perfectly fine if you trust them. Many people don't. Personally I wouldn't trust any dev tool that uploads my usage.

Post by mel919 » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 11:12 AM UTC

romanovcode wrote: post #25

If you are so against telemetry and google analytics specifically maybe you should remove it from your own site?[0] [0] https://imgur.com/a/NX2Gc

Post by vetinari » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 11:24 AM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #31

bjpbakker wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For reference, they collect That's not all that matters. IMO the real decision is: do you /trust/ MS ? Do you trust that they anonymize collected data and that they won't secretly change collected data? Do you trust future MS with that information. > I'm actually OK with this to be honest That's perfectly fine if you trust them. Many people don't. Personally I wouldn't trust any dev tool that uploads my usage.

So I assume you don't use web apps.

Post by Silhouette » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 11:40 AM UTC

RubyPinch wrote: post #26

"You should be able to run a command that doesn’t use the network, knowing that it won’t open a network port." Is the reader supposed to stop reading there? Because they must be using a different dotnet than everyone else, considering microsoft's dotnet does package management and download iirc? "I don’t want your tools spying on you either." how virtuous. Some people don't care though, some people actually prefer it

Post by tunap » Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 12:36 PM UTC

nolok wrote: post #28

blub wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author must not be used to the new spyware-by-default mentality coming from Microsoft. Hard to believe, but they used to sell products a while ago and had no telemetry. If you want to see how it's done properly, look at OmniGroup: their apps have toggleable telemetry and it's off by default.

> The author must not be used to the new spyware-by-default mentality coming from Microsoft. Hard to believe, but they used to sell products a while ago and had no telemetry. Yeah well you and the author's first clue should have been when you stopped paying for said products. And in this specific case, it's really not spying, it reveals pretty much nothing about you and help them figure out what is used and what fail…