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Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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It's too bad that Etherium prices are down so much right now from a few weeks ago.

It's only bad if you bought in at the peak expecting it to keep climbing.

ETH price fluctuates wildly. The latest dip had no real connection to any news, all speculation.

My advice: If you believe in the tech, buy in. If you are looking for a get-rich-quick investment, be prepared to lose a ton of money.

Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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post #12

> The EEA describes itself as a standards group designed to help enterprises build their own interoperable technology, mostly using private versions of the ethereum blockchain. Ether price soaring right now, but isn't Master Card's bussiness direct competition of the public Ethereum blockchain as a payment system?

Not really. Ethereum payments sell on being trustless, which means you have to upfront the money. Mastercard deals in credit. You'll never get the benefits of a credit based system in ethereum. This is why all ethereum dapps stink so far too. People are used to exchanging trust for goods and perks.

Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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post #12

> The EEA describes itself as a standards group designed to help enterprises build their own interoperable technology, mostly using private versions of the ethereum blockchain. Ether price soaring right now, but isn't Master Card's bussiness direct competition of the public Ethereum blockchain as a payment system?

I have always thought that but it just crossed my mind that credit cards are basically just terrible loans. You could still give out loans in cryptocurrencies. Maybe Master Card could just switch if a particular crypto currency gained wide adoption. They could start issuing new cards with some sort of technology that allowed for cryptocurrency transactions at businesses. Or maybe they can use existing card tech, I re…

What makes them terrible loans?

Also, much of the benefit of credit cards is from the fraud protection and mediation that companies provide -- it's not so much that they're loaning me $X00, but that they're covering the transaction details against fraudulent use and provide a dispute mechanism if don't feel the merchant has lived up to their offer post payment.

I find it much more likely that MC is trying to be the MC of cryptocurrencies -- eg, by packaging up a USB dongle that automates transactions using "secure" means, which they then insure against abuse. From that perspective, ETH makes a reasonable platform.

Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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post #12

> The EEA describes itself as a standards group designed to help enterprises build their own interoperable technology, mostly using private versions of the ethereum blockchain. Ether price soaring right now, but isn't Master Card's bussiness direct competition of the public Ethereum blockchain as a payment system?

Not really. Ethereum payments sell on being trustless, which means you have to upfront the money. Mastercard deals in credit. You'll never get the benefits of a credit based system in ethereum. This is why all ethereum dapps stink so far too. People are used to exchanging trust for goods and perks.

mastercard deals in credit? banks deals in credit, mastercard is a payment network.

Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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post #33

It seems like Ethereum is getting a lot more industry support than Bitcoin ever did. If Ethereum continues it looks like it could kill off Bitcon, the looming possibility of a hard fork might be contributing make that happen really soon.

Is this industry support, or more collaborative research project like R3?

I have talked to some bank representatives, and while they have been testing ethereum technology, they do it on their private chains on their private networks. No word of production use. In general banks seem to budget a lot of funds towards various r&d activity, on which majority of stuff never ends up anywhere.

Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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post #12

> The EEA describes itself as a standards group designed to help enterprises build their own interoperable technology, mostly using private versions of the ethereum blockchain. Ether price soaring right now, but isn't Master Card's bussiness direct competition of the public Ethereum blockchain as a payment system?

I have always thought that but it just crossed my mind that credit cards are basically just terrible loans. You could still give out loans in cryptocurrencies. Maybe Master Card could just switch if a particular crypto currency gained wide adoption. They could start issuing new cards with some sort of technology that allowed for cryptocurrency transactions at businesses. Or maybe they can use existing card tech, I re…

Credit card loads are the best to me as a consumer, since there is 0% interest for 1,5 month on average.

Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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What are the advantages Ethereum has over Bitcoin, except faster transactions?

Better politics, internally and externally. Internally because the community isn't as hardcore. Externally because it hasn't been publicly associated with black markets the way Bitcoin has.

As a relative outsider, it doesn't seem to me like ethereum has a great history of good politics, given the whole DAO, hard fork, eth classic setup (https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/guides/the-dao-the-hack-...)

Re: Master Card, Cisco, and Scotiabank Join the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance

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post #12

> The EEA describes itself as a standards group designed to help enterprises build their own interoperable technology, mostly using private versions of the ethereum blockchain. Ether price soaring right now, but isn't Master Card's bussiness direct competition of the public Ethereum blockchain as a payment system?

I don't understand why the coin would increase in value, it's the tech that they are looking at, to use among themselves on private block chains.
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