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I've used Nokia for a long time and I can't remember a phone that didn't have SOME annoyance. My e72 has several. I'm looking forward to MeeGo, a true Linux mobile computer. Neither Android nor the iPhone cut it for me so far. The iphone is great fun, but too locked up and hyped, I hate hype and fashion. I don't like Android because I think that it's just one more piece in Google's plan for world data domination. Sti…

Who cares if the product is hyped or not. Who cares if the guy next door already has one.

I don't use google for search because everyone else does, I use it because it works for me. If I start to find that Bing works better, I'll switch to that. Who cares if everyone else is using google or not.

Saying you don't want to use an iPhone because it's too locked up makes sense, even though I don't agree with that position. Saying you don't want to use an iPhone because of hype and fashion, that's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

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Heart filling post. I never owned a nokia phone neither did I read the blog. But something about the two authors losing there passion for something they loved so dearly makes me feel sad.

Its funny that this got posted here. My friends and I were discussing just this morning. Everybody agreed that all nokia phones were sluggish and had ugly interface. My personal opinion is that fastest phones are released by Samsung(this might be biased as I use a Samsung Corby) and the best quality in accessories like camera and music is from sony ericsson.(Remember that we were talking about low budget phones so that rules out Nexus One and iPhone). I have used N97 myself and found it sluggish and ugly. Sure I was first excited by the hinged slider screen, but apart from that there is nothing special about it.

BTW the nokia phone I like the most would definitely be 1108. Sure its black and white but its fast, it has high quality of signal and it so reliable that even if I throw it on the wall and put the pieces back together it would bloody work.

Re: Symbian-Guru.com Is Over

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I've used Nokia for a long time and I can't remember a phone that didn't have SOME annoyance. My e72 has several. I'm looking forward to MeeGo, a true Linux mobile computer. Neither Android nor the iPhone cut it for me so far. The iphone is great fun, but too locked up and hyped, I hate hype and fashion. I don't like Android because I think that it's just one more piece in Google's plan for world data domination. Sti…

Hype is just marketing. The actual device is really nice. Just because the reality isn't quite at the level of "revolution", is it really necessary to discount the platform in its entirety? I had a friend who refused to get an iPod. They were then stricken with using stuff by Creative, which were plagued with hardware issues. Getting them serviced was a chore that took months at a time without the player. They still…

Yes, 4G is really nice! But the 3GS and 3G were made to look much better than they really were. It's not so much the hype itself that bothers me, but that the reality was much less impressive:

- iPhone didn't have a flash until 4G and had a weak camera. I don't have a camera, I use my phone. - no multitasking until 4G. I've used multitasking for a lot of time and run multiple apps at once. - it was very expensive and not available in my country for my operator

With each iteration the iPhone has gotten better and better to the point where I would actually get one, if it weren't for two facts: I like to be able to run anything I want on my phone and I want to be able to program it.

I'm probably a very special case... I would not hesitate to recommend an iPhone to friends.

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I too feel bad for Symbian. I did my first mobile dev on my Nokia N70 phone which I still have (bought my HTC Desire a week ago). I can only see 2 reasons here... 1.) Too much fragmentation. Fragmentation in android is nothing compared to slaughtering in symbian phones. 2.) No unified app store for developers. And that's probably due to #1 And #1 and #2 made it pretty easy for others to compete after apple showed the…

FWIW, i-mate was never a phone manufacturer, it just resold phones made by others. For most of its existence, the company sold HTC phones under licence in some of the territories where HTC did not have a brand presence. This ended once HTC started selling phones under its own brand. And a minor nitpick, but Symbian was limited to Nokia's smart phone range, their low-to-mid-end phones run either Series 30 or Series 40…

Symbian wasn't limited to Nokia phones until they took over the whole project and created S60. I had Symbian UIQ3 on my Sony P1i.

Re: Symbian-Guru.com Is Over

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, i-mate was never a phone manufacturer, it just resold phones made by others. For most of its existence, the company sold HTC phones under licence in some of the territories where HTC did not have a brand presence. This ended once HTC started selling phones under its own brand. And a minor nitpick, but Symbian was limited to Nokia's smart phone range, their low-to-mid-end phones run either Series 30 or Series 40…

Symbian wasn't limited to Nokia phones until they took over the whole project and created S60. I had Symbian UIQ3 on my Sony P1i.

Which is why I referred to it as Nokia's implementation of Symbian, by which I meant S60. At the time the N70 was released Symbian was not controlled by any one company, with both Nokia and Sony Ericsson controlling the majority of shares in Symbian Ltd, although Nokia had strong control over S60.

Aside from a few half-hearted attempts from Samsung and LG, the only really ambitious attempt by a company other than Nokia to use S60 was Siemens with the SX1. Unfortunately it was not much of a success, due in no small part to the odd keypad layout. So for all intents and purposes, S60 equalled Nokia.

UIQ, similarly, was driven primarily by Sony Ericsson although it was owned (till 2007) by Symbian Ltd. Unlike S60, which was in some ways a scaling up of Nokia's dumb phone interface to a smart phone, UIQ was designed from the start for stylus-based touch input. But both co-existed, with the SE P800 and the Nokia 7650 having launched as far back as the second half of 2002. I always preferred UIQ, to be honest.

Both S60 and UIQ were abandoned when Nokia bought out the other Symbian Ltd partners in 2008.

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You do realize that being anti-hype and anti-fashion is fashionable nowadays? ;)

I dislike hype and fashion because it is not rational, promotes strong emotions over judgement and it is costly for us as a society. You could almost feel this guy's soul tear while writing this. For what, a phone? A corporation? When the market slams Nokia in the face, they will feel it, not when a fanboy jumps ship. And Nokia is getting slammed pretty badly right now. They need to control the Os less they become a…

I love QT for the desktop and I hope that Nokia can make it easily portable to phones... Things sound grim at the moment.

Re: Symbian-Guru.com Is Over

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I worked as an intern at one of the Nokia's branches (won't tell you where, but it's in N.A.) in a city where there are quite a few Symbian software houses. I talked to a few Symbian developers and they absolutely hate it with passion. We're not talking technology for technology sake but more like "Business wise, it's not worth it unless you'd want your workers to suffer productivity nightmare". My (short) time at th…

I've worked in large corporate environments for many years and one of the things I've learned is this: if they call a big company meeting and a guy in a suit gets up and tells you they're going to do X but DON'T WORRY ABOUT Y HAPPENING WE HAVE NO PLANS OF DOING Y, you need to immediately begin assuming that Y is going to happen.

Because it will.

Maybe not the next day or the next week or even the next month. But it will happen, and it is because the suits have already started knocking the dominoes over in just the right way, behind the scenes, in the back offices and off-site conversations that you will never be privy to. I'd say this prediction method has worked successfully for me say 90% of the time. It's just something about corporate culture and the types of people who get into those positions, or at least, the pressures put on them to say certain things and not say other things, in order to manipulate employees and maximize their own personal benefit.

It's a bit Orwellian.

Re: Symbian-Guru.com Is Over

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Like watching your favorite sports team lose game after game after game. Eventually, even the most die-hard sports fans have to find a new team.

Apparently this guy is not a Cleveland fan.

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