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Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by 0xFFC »

mastax wrote: post #29

I was a bit cynical when GNOME started writing new 'modern' desktop apps. It seemed like a lot of wasted effort chasing Windows/Mac. Who really needs a native desktop maps app? But I actually really like the new apps they've put together. They're simple, clean, and lightweight. I'm a bit surprised that they're made with GTK. Still hate "hot corners," though.

I do agree about hot corners m.

Have used it for long time? It is really buggy. After awhile it literally slows down. I keep my workstation open for at 2 days and after 7,8 hours it gets slower and slower m.

And sometimes it crashes badly. That should not happen with desktop environment.

Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by astrodust »

fulafel wrote: post #30
astrodust wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Fedora since they forked from RedHat for the simple reason that clicking "Next" through the installer or mashing F12 always did the right thing by default. Ubuntu and Debian, by comparison, would always ask stupid questions that had even dumber defaults. Nothing would ever work unless you went out of your way to look things up. The Fedora team has done a really great job of keeping the distribution co…

They didn't fork, RH just rebranded it.

Fedora is not identical to RedHat. It's more of a proving ground for new things that may or may not make their way back into RedHat Enterprise Linux.

It's not a simple rebrand. Fedora Core 1 took what was staged for RedHat 10 and packaged it with a different license and sent it off in a different direction.

Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by Kostic »

0xFFC wrote: post #31
mastax wrote: post #29

I was a bit cynical when GNOME started writing new 'modern' desktop apps. It seemed like a lot of wasted effort chasing Windows/Mac. Who really needs a native desktop maps app? But I actually really like the new apps they've put together. They're simple, clean, and lightweight. I'm a bit surprised that they're made with GTK. Still hate "hot corners," though.

I do agree about hot corners m. Have used it for long time? It is really buggy. After awhile it literally slows down. I keep my workstation open for at 2 days and after 7,8 hours it gets slower and slower m. And sometimes it crashes badly. That should not happen with desktop environment.

Do you use extensions? I've experienced this (in Fedora 21 to 23) but since I stopped using extensions, I haven't had a single crash. I usually run one session on the laptop for 5 days straight.

Re: Fedora 26 released

#34

Post by AdmiralAsshat »

sandGorgon wrote: post #13

The best part of fedora 26 is built in f.lux /redshift. No need to install or setup third party apps. Just that feature makes it worth it

I have mixed feelings on it. GNOME Nightlight only exists because a number of people complained that the lack of screen-temperature API made Redshift on Wayland impossible.

On the one-hand, the feature is incredibly useful, and great to have it included in all GNOME installs.

On the other hand, this is exactly what Google and Apple did when they kicked apps like f.lux out of the appstore, and then rolled out their own built-in blue-light blockers.

If your end goal is making the feature available to as many people as possible, then great. But from the perspective of a small developer, however, "OS vendor forbade my software on their platform, then ripped it off and baked their own version into the OS" leaves something of a bad taste in my mouth.

Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by FullyFunctional »

Fedora is a fine Linux distro (as are many others).

I was hoping to see an update on the RISC-V port. Fabrice has made it easy to try to the early F25 in the browser (see, https://vfsync.org/vm_list.html) and I'd really love to see RISC-V becoming an officially supported architecture now that the privileged spec is frozen (that is, will evolve in a backwards compatible way).

Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by lima »

schnevets wrote: post #28
lima wrote: post #2

Fedora has been great lately. QA is so much better than other distros. Things "just work".

So interesting... I gave up on Fedora around the "Beefy Miracle" silliness. I remembered seeing comment threads that combined community exasperation alongside genuine technical complaints. It's nice to see the team has rebuilt itself! Maybe I'll give 26 a spin in a VM.

Much better now. Red Hat has full time people working on it and the community is larger. I've heard that many of the people working on GNOME, systemd and the like use Fedora themselves, which certainly helps.

My favorite Linux distribution nowadays because I don't have to spend time fiddling with it.

I also really like spec files for packaging - they're really similar to PKGBUILD and similar formats.

Re: Fedora 26 released

#37

Post by NikolaeVarius »

sandGorgon wrote: post #13

The best part of fedora 26 is built in f.lux /redshift. No need to install or setup third party apps. Just that feature makes it worth it

Man its annoying that this kind of stuff is specific to the DE not OS.

I find XFCE to be perfect for my workflow but would love this utility.

Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by RandomKid »

Everyone is praising GNOME here. Am I the only one who thinks that it's not polished enough? I'm using it on my laptop and it kind of works most of the time. But there are occasional bugs arising here and there. I even sometimes think that I'm the first user otherwise how come nobody noticed those (sometimes very obvious) bugs. If 26 isn't fixing them, apparently I'll have to move back to the Cinnamon spin.

Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by patrick_vbn »

rayiner wrote: post #15

So what's the Linux remote desktop story these days? It seems like modern versions of GNOME running on Wayland don't support VNC?

There is an RDP backend for Wayland: https://241931348f64b1d1.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/waylands-r...

There is a SPICE backend: https://github.com/ein-shved/compositor-spice

There is the Samsung effort Wayland Over Wire (WOW): https://blogs.s-osg.org/wow-wayland-over-wire/

Apparantly, the Pipewire effort to make a high performance, low latency audio/video server will address remote display somehow too: https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2017/06/20/fedora-workstation...

Re: Fedora 26 released

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Post by digi_owl »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #37
sandGorgon wrote: post #13

The best part of fedora 26 is built in f.lux /redshift. No need to install or setup third party apps. Just that feature makes it worth it

Man its annoying that this kind of stuff is specific to the DE not OS. I find XFCE to be perfect for my workflow but would love this utility.

It would be specific to the OS, as long as we stuck to X11. But with the move to Wayland, there will be pr-compositor reimplementations...
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