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Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Homework's largely supposed to be about reinforcing the lesson for math courses. For other courses it's largely about reading which shouldn't be done in class. Tests/essays are for assessment.

Then why should homework be factored into grades at all?

Incentive to do it.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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It is not cheating. It is leveling the playing field. Some students will inevitably have access to tutors or parents who can give them the full answer. With wolfram|Alpha all students have access to this. What this really show is that homework isn't the best tool for gauging student prowess.

I remember letting wolfram|Alpha solve some problems, then reading the steps it took to get there. They weren't always the most "human" approaches, but there was something to learn from it as well.

Poor-man's (student) tutor.

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When I was 18, back in 1999, I had an internship at WRI (Wolfram Research) in Illinois. I'd applied armed only with a library copy of the Mathematica book, so they sent me a CD with Mathematica on it. I made some demo things and got a slot, and flew to Champaign. I worked on polyhedra for a summer, writing code that could unroll a polyhedral model to its 2D net. Find the volume, the number of faces and all kinds of s…

> we need to learn 'the basics' and survive without tools to some degree

This is the wrong approach. There's no way you wouldn't understand math much better with these tools.

I'm hoping that in the future, math will be less about equations and symbols and more about graphing and being able to move around in the spaces described by the equations.

I would draw an analogy with a compiler. After using it for some time, your brain will take on the shape of the compiler and you'll write correct (lol is it ever tho) code without even having to compile it.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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I fail to see the problem here. In a curriculum that takes the joy out of math and attempts to reduce the student's mind to a calculation machines, students employed a calculation machine.

I understand the arguement that math is important, but the way it's taught in America, even at the AP level, is criminal. It boils down to "if you see this pattern, apply these steps" without any effort at going beyond. We teach "how" but not "why", which I think is a common refrain when talking about the American education system, or any test driven education system. Math is a means, not an end.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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I am deeply grateful that something like WolframAlpha existed when I was taking calculus classes. It helped me soo much. I could make up integrals, solve them and see if I was right, just like that. It even has a function to show step by step solutions of integrals and series. All extremely useful tools to deepen understanding, not to cheat.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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Am I the only one here that would program their TI-83 in high school to run equations for me so I didn't have to solve them by hand? I wasn't even that dev-savvy (and still am not), but it was super easy and was a huge time-saver on timed tests. I obviously had to learn the concept in order to program the equation, but once I did - why should I have to go through everything manually every single time?

I had a math teacher who agreed. Me and another student sat in the back and we programmed the calculator to do whatever she taught us that day, which she was reviewing it with the other students.

Since we developed the tools, we obviously had an understanding of the concepts and we allowed to use them for homework, and tests and such.

And it kept us from being bored and disruptive, so it worked out for everyone.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

#38
So the test is rewarding students with the skills to perform well in real life, instead of only those who have submitted blindly to the outdated traditions taught by those who cannot do.

There is of cause a level where you cannot just copy solutions but those tend to be badly covered by "facts centered" written exams anyway so why not build your exams around the reality that modern tools exist and will be used, instead of testing as if the world had not changed since the teachers left school.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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Or they could cheat by doing their homework, then checking the results on Wolfram Alpha to make sure they always get 100%.

I think we should encourage that. If students can catch their mistakes early and learn from them, I think they should.

What we should discourage is students using Wolfram Alpha to just get the answers without any initial work. That robs students of the chance to learn and would definitely be cheating.

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