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For the NSA, they list salary ranges on the job postings. Examples: Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Entry: $68,586 - $85,464 Cryptographic Vuln. Analyst - Mid-Level: $79,334 - $105,663 Computer Network Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Systems Vulnerability Analyst - Entry/Mid: Same Capabilities Development Specialist - Entry/Mid: Same The range for Senior positions is $94,796 - $145,629 There's also signing bonuses available,…
damn thats terrible
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[1]. https://www.federal pay.org/GS/2017
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For those of us who don't know what any of that means, can you add $ figures to those terms?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Schedule_(US_civil_ser...
Speaking from personal experience (dating an employee) I can tell you it is not necessarily north of 100K. Most I have spoken with from NSA make less thank 100k and that's with 5+ years at the agency, non-management.
Yikes, hope those bennies are pretty sweet.
I have seen well north of $200k.
From the sounds of other posts you're making similar money to what you would at the big 4 (5?). I think another question to ask is what other reasons would you want to work at these companies? The possibility to learn from other smart people? The opportunity to work on problems you couldn't get elsewhere?
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For those of us who don't know what any of that means, can you add $ figures to those terms?
These numbers seem incredibly low. Like, "why doesn't Google just hire them all away and put them in a box somewhere" numbers. The economic damage done by repeated spying allegations and the vulnerabilities the NSA has stockpiled (and then leaked) seems like it's far outweighed the cost even to individual companies to just filibuster the whole thing. Then again, I'm not going to dig into the pathology of people who'd accept government jobs in the first place.
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For those of us who don't know what any of that means, can you add $ figures to those terms?
Looking it up (they're very public figures), the high end of that scale is 96k; the low end 52. (G11 base is $52,329.00, G13 base is $74,584.00) These numbers seem incredibly low. Like, "why doesn't Google just hire them all away and put them in a box somewhere" numbers. The economic damage done by repeated spying allegations and the vulnerabilities the NSA has stockpiled (and then leaked) seems like it's far outweig…
So for Los Angeles, for example, total annual salary would be $74,584.00 * 1.2965 = $96,698.00 for G13 base. G13 max would be $96,958.00 * 1.2965 = $125,706.00.
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Just to improve that answer: SES is usually reserved for management. It is designed to produce a general "gov't manager" able to be swapped into any agency and manage people. It is extremely rare for any SES to do research work directly. They usually manage a lab or similar larger organization. The same goes for GS-14 and higher. Those ranks usually translate to management, or it is expected that they would have some…
to add a little bit of extra inside baseball (my experience only, YMMV) - bands (short for pay bands) in FEDERAL (not contractor) competitive service vs. excepted service are slightly different. Competitive service works as Band 1-4, followed by SES (senior executive service). With excepted service (which I expect most hacker type folks to be hired under) you don't have SES. You have Band 1-5, with Band 5 roughly = t…