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US Lifts Laptop Ban on Etihad, Emirates and Turkish Airlines
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#32I don't understand why these bans are only for specific airlines. Maybe if the flights originate from specific airports which may have lax security. However the ban is also for flights to those destination originating from the US. If there was a way to turn a laptop into a bomb I am sure the terrorist would just jump on a local US aircraft.
Are you sure the ban is in both directions? I'm pretty sure it's only on flights to the US, and what I can find online supports this.
The ban is because authorities believe security at those airports is inadequate to detect a bomb built into a laptop. This implies they believe security at other airports is able to detect such things. If the ban is being lifted for specific airlines, it's because those airlines have security sufficient to detect these laptop bombs (or at least the authorities believe they do).
It is not necessarily the case that every airline at a given airport has the exact same security. It's possible for terminals to be separated and security measures to be enhanced at only one terminal. It's possible for additional security screening to be done at the gate.
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#33I don't understand why these bans are only for specific airlines. Maybe if the flights originate from specific airports which may have lax security. However the ban is also for flights to those destination originating from the US. If there was a way to turn a laptop into a bomb I am sure the terrorist would just jump on a local US aircraft.
Are you sure the ban is in both directions? I'm pretty sure it's only on flights to the US, and what I can find online supports this. The ban is because authorities believe security at those airports is inadequate to detect a bomb built into a laptop. This implies they believe security at other airports is able to detect such things. If the ban is being lifted for specific airlines, it's because those airlines have s…
I flew a round-trip on Turkish (Atlanta-Istanbul-Vienna, then Budapest-Istanbul-Atlanta) while the ban was in effect. The ban was only in effect on the Istanbul to Atlanta flight. I believe I could have carried a laptop on the Budapest-Istanbul flight and "gate-checked" it at Istanbul; I didn't see anyone do this, but my carry-on bag was searched at the gate so I suppose that's when it would have happened. See http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/04/19/guide-elec... for an example of how this gate checking may have worked.
Re: US Lifts Laptop Ban on Etihad, Emirates and Turkish Airlines
#34I'm not sure if this has hit the US news, but from a few days go in Argentina news, the US is going to require special scanners in the airports in other countries (Spanish article, English translation below): http://www.iprofesional.com/notas/252113-computadoras-tecnol... "The United States government will strengthen security measures for people traveling to that country with computers and tablets. Official sources f…
This is making me worried.
When i was a student at mit, we had trips to boeing facilities in seattle. One time, i was again selected randomly for explosive trace sample collection from hands. I dont know what it was, but when they put the tissue in the machine, the machine showed a blinking text saying explosive detected. The tsa agent(iirc) paniced, tried to call out his supervisor while trying to keep an eye on me.
Now usa probably has more experience with false positives, i am curious how i will be treated when i go visit my parent :)
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#35I am looking forward to the day where global entry is applied worldwide :/ breezing through security is pretty nice after being aelected randomly so many times :)
Re: US Lifts Laptop Ban on Etihad, Emirates and Turkish Airlines
#36I'm not sure if this has hit the US news, but from a few days go in Argentina news, the US is going to require special scanners in the airports in other countries (Spanish article, English translation below): http://www.iprofesional.com/notas/252113-computadoras-tecnol... "The United States government will strengthen security measures for people traveling to that country with computers and tablets. Official sources f…
This is making me worried. When i was a student at mit, we had trips to boeing facilities in seattle. One time, i was again selected randomly for explosive trace sample collection from hands. I dont know what it was, but when they put the tissue in the machine, the machine showed a blinking text saying explosive detected. The tsa agent(iirc) paniced, tried to call out his supervisor while trying to keep an eye on me.…
Happened to me about a year ago flying DEN to LGA. I had one of those thermal receipt printers in my carry on. Those set off the bomb swab machines. Luckily Mr. TSA knew that thermal printers could set the machine off so nobody panicked and I was allowed through.
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#37>"The department of Homeland Security initiated the ban in March. It came into effect covering all flights to U.S. destinations from 10 airports in the Middle East, including major travel hubs like Dubai, Abu Dabi and Dohar." So how would a ban at flights originating at these airports prevent someone from exploiting this on a flight with a layover in this airport i.e while the plane was in route to one of these 10 ai…
> So how would a ban at flights originating at these airports prevent someone from exploiting this on a flight with a layover in this airport i.e while the plane was in route to one of these 10 airports? Have you been to a middle east hub? There's a specific security section you have to go through to get to the US bound flights - it's a completely different screening process and would be quite easy easy for them to c…
Yes, I have flow though Doha many times. The fact that their might be special facilities there doesn't stop someone from damaging a flight en route to that airport with extra security equipment.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
The government has made pretty clear over the last few months that the reason for the ban was intelligence that jihadist groups had made progress towards developing a laptop bomb. It is pretty reasonable for them to withhold details in order to protect sources and intelligence-gathering techniques.
Yes, lets put those laptop bombs in the hold.
The amount of explosive you can fit into a laptop (and have it not be obvious) isn't a lot. So it works best if you can place the laptop directly against the hull of the aircraft. Putting it in the hold makes that less likely to happen. So while not optimal, putting them in the hold is an improvement.
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#39The solution to the laptop bans is portable hard drives .Let the $15/hour worker lose your laptop. the software and files are more important
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#40Laptop bans are such a horrible idea. Yes, entrust a $2000+ dollar piece of hardware (with important software and files) to someone who is barely paid enough to care what happens to it.