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Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

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Post by kevin_nisbet »

ams6110 wrote: post #20
cylinder wrote: post #8

I've got to wonder, why do coworkers go out for drinks if it's not a social setting? I don't understand the logic of mixing alcohol with colleagues if you're still under the "workplace" umbrella.

I don't really understand socializing with co-workers outside of work under any circumstances, but especially with intoxicants involved. This includes company holiday parties, etc. Let work be work, and keep your social life separate. I've seen far more bad than good come out of such things.

Most of my best friends I've met at work, and we socialize often even after changing jobs. I also find it to be a great opportunity to blow off steam with like minded people, about the problems we're encountering in the workplace.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

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Post by quaunaut »

[deleted] wrote: post #22

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You can be yourself, be human, be flexible, and not make sexual advances toward those you have power over.

In fact, if you can't do both, it's you who cannot survive in today's world. It's time for us to all get better at being more aware of our position.

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Post by infodroid »

cylinder wrote: post #8

I've got to wonder, why do coworkers go out for drinks if it's not a social setting? I don't understand the logic of mixing alcohol with colleagues if you're still under the "workplace" umbrella.

The goal is to get to know your coworkers better, so you can see them as people instead of mere job descriptions. It's still a workplace setting, except that you are discouraged from talking about work. The alcohol is there to cut through the inevitable anxiety that such situations create, not as an excuse to be unprofessional.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

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Post by cylinder »

ams6110 wrote: post #20
cylinder wrote: post #8

I've got to wonder, why do coworkers go out for drinks if it's not a social setting? I don't understand the logic of mixing alcohol with colleagues if you're still under the "workplace" umbrella.

I don't really understand socializing with co-workers outside of work under any circumstances, but especially with intoxicants involved. This includes company holiday parties, etc. Let work be work, and keep your social life separate. I've seen far more bad than good come out of such things.

I agree, not a fan of these things. I make friends through jobs, but by planning private hangouts with them...

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

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Post by an_account »

ceejayoz wrote: post #5
cyberferret wrote: post #2

I don't know the guy aside from what I have read in the press (both good and bad), but I'd like to think he wrote this with genuine sincerity. Hopefully this is the start of a groundswell trend of traits such as 'accountability' and 'taking responsibility for your actions' becoming fashionable and an expected part of human behaviour again.

Call me cynical, but I suspect all these apology posts are written largely by the poster's PR firm.

This one sounds pretty genuine. With something of this nature you'd be stupid not to have PR people help out, but it does sound genuine.

It sounds like he's stepping back and taking a very hard look at his actions and behavior. Hopefully he improves and doesn't do the same in the future.

Also, hopefully other similarly situated people see this and learn from his (now very public) mistakes.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

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Post by alsetmusic »

ams6110 wrote: post #20
cylinder wrote: post #8

I've got to wonder, why do coworkers go out for drinks if it's not a social setting? I don't understand the logic of mixing alcohol with colleagues if you're still under the "workplace" umbrella.

I don't really understand socializing with co-workers outside of work under any circumstances, but especially with intoxicants involved. This includes company holiday parties, etc. Let work be work, and keep your social life separate. I've seen far more bad than good come out of such things.

I went to dinner with seven good friends last week and we all met at the same employer. None of us have been coworkers for over five years. We spent about 2.5 hours together laughing and having a blast.

Some work environments are genuinely conducive to forming friendships and others are not. I haven't befriended coworkers at every job, but my closest friendships have all been from the workplace since leaving school.

Re: I'm a creep. I'm sorry

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Post by tormeh »

seibelj wrote: post #6

I keep a 100% wall between work and personal life for a reason. Anyone I'm doing business with I see at best as a coworker or business acquaintance, so there is no risk of merging those two realms. If you are powerful man or woman, you should be aware that people who know who you are treat you differently. This Dave McClure guy actually thought all these women were into him purely because he was some amazing dude and…

>What a moron

People usually fall for these lies (whether of their own invention or others) because they want to believe. It's more like a cognitive bias than a lack of IQ.

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