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Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by rsp1984 » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:26 AM UTC

pavlakoos wrote: post #21

Does it hurt them at all?

Not the money part of it. Not sure about legal/strategic implications down the road.

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by gressquel » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:26 AM UTC

I wish they would add an additional 1 billion fine for AMP.

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by karussell » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:26 AM UTC

ruiramos wrote: post #18

Not sure I get the logic here. Will they be fined next for showing the Google Maps embed (and street view) when you search for places nearby? What's the difference?

The funny thing is that Google Maps is even worse than the shopping comparison IMO. But I think the shopping thing got traction as a few competitors bundled their forces and sued them.

I like it and hope that Google will stop promoting their services without listing alternatives for lots of things that they promote on the search page (Google Maps, Android, Chrome, Youtube, ...). See 'other cases' in the document that could be next potential steps (ads, Android)

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by bencollier49 » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:27 AM UTC

gressquel wrote: post #32

I wish they would add an additional 1 billion fine for AMP.

Perhaps that's up next.

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by ihsw2 » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:27 AM UTC

gressquel wrote: post #32

I wish they would add an additional 1 billion fine for AMP.

AMP is the best thing to happen to Android users, I vastly prefer sites that serve AMP content to ones that don't.

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by vegancap » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:27 AM UTC

The EU are verging on gangsterism, extorting businesses for increasingly specious violations and terms. Of course Google favour their affiliates on THEIR web services, their property.

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by gpribeiro » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:28 AM UTC

forthefuture wrote: post #8

Capitalism is like a competition that when you win you don't ever get to play again.

Capitalism implies economic agents that follow fair rules. What this ruling shows is that EU haven't forgot what capitalism is all about.

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by pavlakoos » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:29 AM UTC

rsp1984 wrote: post #31

pavlakoos wrote: post #21

Does it hurt them at all?

Not the money part of it. Not sure about legal/strategic implications down the road.

Legal? Legal implications usually can lead to a big fine, but that already happened, so I'm not sure if there's room for follow-up.

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by munchor » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:29 AM UTC

jlebrech wrote: post #28

what's stopping google from shutting up shop in the EU. would they have to block EU access? how much revenue do they make from EU clients?

What about the thousands of people they hire across their multiple offices in the EU?

Re: European Commission fines Google €2.42B for abusing dominance

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Post by flexie » Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:29 AM UTC

jlebrech wrote: post #28

what's stopping google from shutting up shop in the EU. would they have to block EU access? how much revenue do they make from EU clients?

Business is what is stopping Google from not servicing Europe. Google makes huge part of its profit on search in Europe and pays almost no tax in Europe.

If Google stopped servicing Europe, one or more European competitors would emerge in days or weeks and Google's dominance would be threatened worldwide within months. It would be a completely suicidal move.